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   Message 42 of 58   
   Dude to David Dalton   
   Re: 29 years   
   20 May 25 09:13:25   
   
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   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 5/19/2025 5:29 PM, David Dalton wrote:   
   > On May 19, 2025, David Dalton wrote   
   > (in article<0001HW.2DDC00B6008C154E7000018E038F@news.eternal-september.org>):   
   >   
   >> For quite some time now I have been expecting my   
   >> low/working/wilderness/forsaken/ascetic years to   
   >> end. I have been measuring from the morning of   
   >> January 29, 2025, in which case I would now be   
   >   
   > oops, 1996, not 2025   
   >   
   >> well over 29 years (the common 7 plus two 11-year   
   >> sunspot cycles, or Jacob’s 18 plus one 11-year sunspot   
   >> cycles, and longer than Jesus’s 3 or Rama’s 14,   
   >> which is 3 plus one 11-year sunspot cycle).   
   >>   
   >> Not long ago I started wondering if I might have to   
   >> go to 29.45 years, which is the orbital period of   
   >> Saturn and still rounds down to 29 years.   
   >>   
   >> But now I have noted that it is now close to the 29th   
   >> anniversary of when I started doing perineum click   
   >> (short period mula bandha) divination and negotiation   
   >> (which I relate to Jacob “wrestling” with his God at night).   
   >> However at that time I was not on the net, so to   
   >> find the exact start date I will have to look through my   
   >> old notebooks, and might not find it even then, and   
   >> I am not about to do that this evening.   
   >>   
   >> Currently I have begun yet another Sisyphean attempt   
   >> to instigate a global new age, including sudden evolution,   
   >> including of current adults, and hope that it will be   
   >> complete (except for ongoing sudden physical evolution)   
   >> by the exact time of last quarter moon. If it fails I don’t   
   >> plan to try during waning crescent since I don’t expect   
   >> success in this area at the same phase as my waning   
   >> crescent highs.   
   >>   
   >> For more background see my Salmon on the Thorns   
   >> web page, but that is not quite up to date, so for   
   >> recent and ongoing progress see alt.religion.druid ,   
   >> and I welcome questions either here or there, plus   
   >> please follow up if you notice effects.   
   >   
   Maybe the problem, David, is the striving.   
      
   "If you can give up striving, you'll be in an enlightened state. But   
   striving, like craving, is very difficult to overcome. The very moment   
   you desire to be enlightened, you are off the program.   
      
   You should not have any thought about gaining a state of enlightenment.   
   All you need to do is sit and be aware. That's what real meditation is -   
   just sitting and being aware of being aware. There's no goal, no steps   
   on The Way - there is just the sitting without the striving.   
      
   There is a striving to stay alive, a striving for material things, and a   
   striving to stay competitive; there is even a very subtle 'greed for   
   views' that must be overcome.   
      
   Because if you desire to be enlightened and you strive for it, you will   
   be creating a desire or craving. Striving is a desire which must be   
   rooted out. This is the fundamental teaching of the Shakya, to root out   
   the craving and the desire.   
      
   Desire for what will not be attained ends in frustration which is a form   
   of suffering. How to avoid suffering? You must adopt the 'Middle Way'.   
   And what is the Middle  Way? The Middle Way is the avoidance of   
   extremes. How to avoid extremes? Do not extremely avoid extremes."   
   - Buddha   
      
   The Middle Way, simply stated is: desire not more enlightenment than you   
   are going to get." - Dude   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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