XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian   
   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Oct 19, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 17:48:42 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 18, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > A dictionary definition says:   
   > > >   
   > > > Death is the permanent cessation of all vital biological functions.   
   > > > (Merriam-Webster)   
   > > >   
   > > > What, nothing more? No, not from a medical standpoint.   
   > >   
   > > Absolutely correct, from the standpoint of what Godless men define it as.   
   > > All they see are from the standpoint of the five senses. Those same people   
   > > can only see death in those terms no matter what book or movie they read or   
   > > watch. They know nothing else.   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > But what about the standpoint of the Bible? How reliable is the Bible?   
   > >   
   > > Whose standpoint? For instance, the JW, according to you, only accept what   
   > > they call the “true” Bible or “True” scripture.   
   >   
   > That's what I call it. They just call it Scripture. Here is just one   
   > example of untrue Scripture. Acts 12:4 in the KJV:   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and   
   > delivered him to four quadrillion of soldiers to keep him; intending   
   > after Easter to bring him forth to the people.   
   >   
   > The word "Easter" is bogus here. King James must like rabbits or   
   > something. Here is the corrected version by the NKJV:   
   >   
   > - New King James   
   > Acts 12:4 So when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and   
   > delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to   
   > bring him before the people after Passover.   
   >   
   > The word there should be "Passover", not Easter.   
   >   
   > Thus by true Scripture I mean Scripture found in the oldest documents.   
      
   Everyone is aware of that translation error, Just like they are that the   
   command “thou shalt not kill” should have read, “Thou shalt not   
   murder”.   
      
   And also per your definition in the last line that would also negate the NWT   
   as being true scripture. As well as their error where they wrote that Jesus   
   is "a god” not God.   
      
   They also, meaning the NWT use the same word in Greek for Lord as God,   
   Jehovah, god, etc. and do when the Bible states Jesus is Lord, they deny him   
   as God or Jehovah. I have already pointed out to you specifically many of   
   their errors in Both the OT as well as the NT.   
      
   What makes the NWT far worse than all the others, is that they reshape their   
   translations to fit their religious doctrines and dogma’s rather than let   
   the truth of scripture reshape them, or you.   
      
   Plus you personally as well as all the other JW’s quote from many other   
   translations rather than what they think is the best, to fir in like a   
   chameleon so was to wear sheets clothing when they are ravening wolves.   
      
   >   
   > > YeasAnd those things only   
   > > they are privy to what is truth and what isn’t. They have to declare that   
   > > since when people quote the scriptures to them, especially when referring   
   to   
   > > the original languages used and translated to the language of today, it   
   > > proves them wrong in so many areas.   
   >   
   > Not so. Give me an example what you call is "wrong" TODAY, not a   
   > million years ago. JW's are fulfilling Pr 4:18. (I need my sunglasses)   
      
   John 1:1   
      
   There was nothing here a million years ago. There has only been slightly less   
   that 6K years.   
      
   >   
   > > Plus their hearts are all dead to God the   
   > > Father.   
   >   
   > They are fulfilling Mt 24:14 and Isa 2:1-4, as well as Pr 4:18.   
      
   They are not, which has been shown to you contextually via the scriptures   
   many times, perhaps 100’s.   
   > Is your church?   
   >   
   > Don't jump on them, jump on me, since I composed my own words of "true   
   > Scriptures". It's like "true science". An example of untrue science is   
   > macroevolution.   
      
   Then why do you always refer to the watchtower?   
      
   You represent the JW. You claim to be a JW, you claim to follow the   
   watchtower mag, or have you been lying to us all along and have your own   
   religion?   
      
   >   
   > >   
   > > > -- King James   
   > > > 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is   
   > > > profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction   
   > > > in righteousness:   
   > > >   
   > > > OK, it tells us the whole Bible is inspired of God. So simply, if we   
   > > > read a true Scripture, it comes from God.   
   > >   
   > > There is that qualifier word again, “true”. They claim that only the   
   NWT   
   > > is mostly true, even though they say the errors in it as redefined by the   
   JW   
   > > are true, even when it is a blatant lie. They are not spiritually Godly.   
   > > They only have a pretense of it.   
   >   
   > See above about "true Scripture".   
      
   You, so far, have given about ten different meanings as to what you call   
   “True Scripture” Changing your tune every time it is called to your   
   attention. And Now you claim it is all made up by you, independently. That is   
   is a lie to say that this is what the JW’s teach.   
      
   So what is the truth? You have stated many times that your new truths are   
   upgrades from what you have learned were lies that the JW fedd you.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > How can an error be true? The word itself has a built-in falsehood.   
      
   Simple, you deceive and twist what is true, to mean other than what it says   
   contextually. This has been repeatedly point out to you many times, by many   
   people of the last 3-4 decades.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > So, contrary to what the churches teach, how does the Bible describe   
   > > > death?   
   > >   
   > > What churches? Hindu’s. Buddhists? Church of Satan? The RCC, the Baptist?   
   > > What?   
   >   
   > When I speak of churches I mean all the ones here in the USA.   
   > Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, RCC's, Anglicans, etc, etc.   
      
   There are many temples like yours here, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, etc. Do you   
   put them into the same category as yourself as well?   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Remember, I can't stress it enough, the following Scriptures are from   
   > > > God. Not some church, not handed down by men, not a religion, etc. But   
   > > > from God. So DEATH is:   
   > >   
   > > A false statement. God told Adam if you eat the fruit of a certain tree you   
   > > shall die. If I were to tell James the JW that if he drinks a bottle of rat   
   > > poison that he too shall die, and I responsible for or caused his death?   
   > > Your statement on its face is a fallacy.   
   >   
   > You don't believe the Bible is from God? See 2 Tim 3:16 again.   
      
   You know full well what I believe.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > - King James   
   > > > Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the   
   > > > dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the   
   > > > memory of them is forgotten.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > In what sense is a person living?   
   >   
   > His beating heart.   
      
   Then is their soul and spirit dead?   
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