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   > > 2Co 5:6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at   
   > > home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:   
   > >   
   > > 2Co 5:8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the   
   > > body, and to be present with the Lord.   
   >   
   > See right above.   
      
   Ok, so Paul was lying as far as you are concerned, I get it. At least you   
   posted this publicly for all to see. Even your co-horts in the JW Org.   
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   > > > -- New Revised Standard with Apocrypha   
   > > > 1 Corinthians 11:30 For this reason many of you are weak and ill, and   
   > > > some have died. {Gk [fallen asleep]}   
   > >   
   > > You were not quoting “true” scripture. So why quote something you feel   
   > > supports your dogma if it is not truth, the real truth according to the JW?   
   >   
   > Yes that is true Scripture. It is God breathed. (2 Tim 3:16)   
      
   Yet you show throughout your post that you disagree with scripture, and that   
   it is given to you the right to disagree with scripture as well as to share   
   your ’truth’ with all others, in spite of what God gave man to write.   
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   > > 1Co 11:26 or as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew   
   > > the Lord's death till he come.   
   > >   
   > > 1Co 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of   
   > > the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.   
   > >   
   > > 1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread,   
   > > and drink ofthat cup.   
   > >   
   > > 1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh   
   > > damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.   
   > >   
   > > 1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many   
   sleep.   
   >   
   > By "sleep" he means death.   
      
   Not the death that you decree.   
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   > >   
   > > When you take communion unworthily V30 applies to you. Because the only   
   ones   
   > > who are to take it are the ones that God considers worthy, you should read   
   > > all the surrounding text and not just cherry pick verses out of context in   
   > > order to reshape the Gospel Messsage.   
   >   
   > I have never taken 'communion; since my RCC days. And have no   
   > intention on ever to do so.   
      
   Hmmm. Yet just recently you stated that you did, I believe it was during   
   Passover time.   
   In fact it was a commandment of Jesus Christ to do so.   
      
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   > > > Those brackets are part of the Scripture. They are not mine.   
   > >   
   > > No, it is not.   
   >   
   > By part of that Scripture I mean the translators added some info   
   > there.   
   > >   
   > > (Greek NT TR)??? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ????????   
   > > ??? ???????? ??? ????????? ??????   
   > >   
   > > There is the Greek text, no brackets.   
   >   
   > You are getting Parasitical on me, nitpicking. The translators are   
   > telling us that the Greeks describe death as being asleep. Which   
   > supports what I have been telling you all along.   
      
   Nope, I was going through death, die, etc. as I stated from the OT all the   
   way through, researching all the various words and forms of it throughout   
   scripture.   
      
   At this point, I have only one thing left to say to you. Something I have   
   struggled with for a long time, and have come to recently understand I should   
   have done so long, long ago. Not withstanding my prayers for your Salvation   
   and that of your family still stand and I will not withdraw them. However,   
   per Tit 1:15,16 and 3:10,11 I am letting you know that there will be no   
   further communication between us. That is, until there is a sincere turning   
   to the Lord Jesus as God with a repentant heart towards Him, not me, for you   
   owe me nothing.   
      
   No need to reply to me in any form. Read Romans 1 especially verses 25-32   
   with a focus on V28 Be very aware of that lest you die in your sins because   
   of that. God is to be feared. In the end, it will be Jesus who judges   
   mankind. Yes, for he judges the dead, and judges them for their works of   
   disobedience. He judges the living, those in Christ for their works of   
   righteousness, not for their works in the flesh, for in the flesh dwells no   
   good thing.   
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   >   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > So there you have it. The Bible teaches us that the dead are "asleep".   
   > > > They don't experience anything right now. But they will when they are   
   > > > resurrected. Both the good and the bad will be resurrected. (Acts   
   > > > 24:15)   
   > >   
   > > Now you have clearly jumped ship. You went from the Physical to the Mixture   
   > > of Physical and Spiritual without consideration to whether or not it was   
   > > spiritual evil or spiritual godliness. Plus when it comes to the JW, they   
   > > believe only 144K of them will be spiritually God worthy.   
   >   
   > Again, you do not understand JW teachings. Rev 7:4 and 14:1 shows   
   > there are 144,000 who will go to Heaven. BUT BILLIONS MORE WILL BE   
   > RESURRECTED AND LIVE UPON A PARADISE EARTH.   
   >   
   > And according to   
   > > you all those slots have been filled.   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Here is another Scripture from God:   
   > > >   
   > > > "3. Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom   
   > > > there is no help.   
   > > > 4. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very   
   > > > day his thoughts perish." (Ps 146:3,4; KJV)   
   > > >   
   > > > Here is the third mention of the dead with an IQ of zero. What does it   
   > > > take to believe these simple Scriptures? God always knows what He is   
   > > > doing. Do you?   
   > >   
   > > He was speaking of putting trust in the Lord, Praises unto him. From the   
   > > Soul   
   > > of man, not the physical part that dies.   
   >   
   > There is no part of a man that does not die:   
   >   
   > - King James   
   > Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father,   
   > so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall   
   > die.   
   >   
   > > “While I live will I praise the   
   > > LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being.” (Psa   
   146:2)   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > In the NT, some people do not experience non-existence, but go right   
   > > > to Heaven when they die. (see Rev 14:1;7:4) But that is a limited   
   > > > number.   
   > >   
   > > None of them were JW’s. They were all Jews.   
   >   
   > We don't know what all of them are, and will be. But they certainly   
   > did witness for Jehovah.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of   
   > > the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom   
   > > it   
   > > was given to hurt the earth and the sea,   
   > >   
   > > Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we   
   > > have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.   
   > >   
   > > Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed:and there were   
   > > sealed an hundred and fortyand four thousand of all the tribes of the   
   > > children of Israel.   
   > >   
   > > Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of   
   > > Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve   
   > > thousand.   
   > >   
   > > Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of   
   > > Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed   
   > > twelve thousand.   
   > >   
   > > Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of   
   > > Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed   
   > > twelve   
   > > thousand.   
   > >   
   > > Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe   
   of   
   > > Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed   
   > > twelve thousand.   
   > >   
   > > And all of this occurred only after the seven years of the Great   
   Tribulation   
   > > that Jesus Spoke of.   
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