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   pill@popper.com to All   
   Re: Vaccines: Get the Full Story   
   22 Feb 12 15:50:22   
   
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   XPost: sci.med, sci.med.nutrition, sci.life-extension   
      
   I looked at the pdf, not impressed.   
      
   There was no, repeat no, science there.  It listed possible side effects.   
   When in clinical test stages or in large scale studies during application   
   all, repeat all, medical events are reported.  This is not a statement of   
   causation.   
      
   For any action taken, any action, that has some desired effect there will   
   always, repeat always, be some level of side effects reported.  Aspirin is   
   the perfect example of this.   
      
   What would be needed to make it science more then listing incidence per 1   
   hundred thousands would be to test in a controled setting for causation.   
   Even if then observed it must be weighed against the dangers for serious   
   outcome and/or death if the disease is untreated.   
      
   This is more a medical political tempest in a teapot then it is science.   
   Doctors for the most part are not scientists.  The only subset of them who   
   would have some basis for an opinion to be taken seriously would be an   
   epidemiologist.  Those names on the list means nothing.  What of the   
   hundreds of thousands of doctors who did not sign?  The few listed then   
   disappear in the crowd.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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