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   Message 19,005 of 20,937   
   Bill Steele to Ubiquitous   
   Re: But How Fast Does He Type?   
   10 Apr 12 13:12:46   
   
   XPost: alt.politics.obama, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.constitution   
   From: ws21@cornell.edu   
      
   On 4/8/12 8:39 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   > RealClearPolitics spots a very funny defense of President Obama's   
   > ignorant comments on constitutional law. Press secretary Jay Carney tells   
   > Fox News's Ed Henry they're actually evidence of superior knowledge:   
   >   
   > 	Henry: The president is a former constitutional law professor.   
   > 	One of his professors is Laurence Tribe. He now says, in his   
   > 	words, the president "obviously misspoke earlier this week",   
   > 	quote "he didn't say what he meant and having said that in order   
   > 	to avoid misleading anyone, he had to clarify it." I thought   
   > 	yesterday you were saying repeatedly that he did not misspeak.   
   > 	What do you make of the president's former law professor   
   > 	saying he did?   
   >   
   > 	Carney: The premise of your question suggests that the president   
   > 	of the United States in the comments he made Monday, did not   
   > 	believe in the constitutionality of legislation, which is a   
   > 	preposterous premise and I know you don't believe that.   
   >   
   > 	Henry: Except this is from Laurence Tribe, who knows a lot more   
   > 	than you and I about constitutional law.   
   >   
   > 	Carney: What I acknowledged yesterday is that speaking on Monday   
   > 	the president was not clearly understood by some people because   
   > 	he is a law professor, he spoke in shorthand.   
   >   
   > Shorthand for what? Here's a quote from another law professor, New York   
   > University's Ronald Dworkin, in the New York Review of Books:   
   >   
   > 	The prospect of an overruling is frightening. American health   
   > 	care is an unjust and expensive shambles; only a comprehensive   
   > 	national program can even begin to repair it. If the Court   
   > 	does declare the Act unconstitutional, it will have ruled that   
   > 	Congress lacks the power to adopt what it thought the most   
   > 	effective, efficient, fair, and politically viable remedy--not   
   > 	because that national remedy would violate anybody's rights,   
   > 	or limit anyone's liberty in ways a state government could not,   
   > 	or would be otherwise unfair, but for the sole reason that in   
   > 	the Court's opinion the strict and arbitrary language of an   
   > 	antique Constitution denies our national legislature the power   
   > 	to enact the only politically possible national program.   
   >   
   > "The strict and arbitrary language of an antique Constitution." Could it   
   > be that Obama's comments were "shorthand" for this sort of contempt   
   > directed against the very document he is sworn to uphold?   
      
   the Constitutiom wisely includes provision for amendment. One can still   
   uphold it while calling for some updating. Clarifying the   
   "well-=regulated militia" phase, for example.   
   >   
   > Meanwhile, The Atlantic Wire reports "Europe Is Baffled by the U.S.   
   > Supreme Court." That has to be a good sign.   
   >   
      
      
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   Conservatives believe that government should not help people do   
   anything. To ratiionally holdjthat position they must believe that they   
   are superior beings who will rise to the top in such a system. So   
   apparently most conservatives are egoists and many are too dumb to   
   understand how dumb they are.   
      
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