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   Message 19,177 of 20,955   
   Dano to Dano   
   Re: ObamaCare Propaganda   
   19 Sep 12 12:24:09   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.neal.boortz, rec.arts.tv, alt.politics.usa   
   XPost: alt.politics.obama   
   From: janeanddano@yahoo.com   
      
   "conklin"  wrote in message   
   news:ubmdneWT6s-sdcTNnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@earthlink.com...   
      
      
   "Dano"  wrote in message   
   news:k3cn2q$4qm$1@dont-email.me...   
   > "conklin"  wrote in message   
   > news:ZJudnabPG8HSJsTNnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@earthlink.com...   
   >   
   >   
   > "emoneyjoe"  wrote in message   
   > news:p7hi58h52akir64baun0n8rvbg7umc9rat@4ax.com...   
   >> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:56:10 -0400, "conklin"    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>"emoneyjoe"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:r5ih589hr7si2ddom5ue3bf78rcuc9n35p@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:47:20 -0500, trotsky  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On 9/18/12 3:44 AM, emoneyjoe wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:00:00 -0400, Neal Boortz    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Hollywood is being called up from the ranks, taking orders from the   
   >>>>>>> Obama   
   >>>>>>> propagandists.  Are you ready for this?  You see, those who are in   
   >>>>>>> charge   
   >>>>>>> of implementing ObamaCare (and those politicians who passed   
   >>>>>>> ObamaCare)   
   >>>>>>> see their biggest hurdle as Sselling the idea of ObamaCare or   
   >>>>>>> communicating its benefits to the great unwashed.  They don? see the   
   >>>>>>> problem with ObamaCare as, ObamaCare itself!  Nope.  They think   
   >>>>>>> their   
   >>>>>>> issue is that they can? reach the people to tell them how great it   
   >>>>>>> is.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> This is where Hollywood comes in.  Apparently some PR firm has been   
   >>>>>>> hired   
   >>>>>>> to help get out the message.  One of their ideas is to use Hollywood   
   >>>>>>> in   
   >>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> few different ways.  One way would be to create a reality show about   
   >>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> family living without medical coverage.  Then along comes Barack   
   >>>>>>> Obama   
   >>>>>>> and his government takeover of our healthcare industry and .. ta da!   
   >>>>>>> ..   
   >>>>>>> I? sure this family will live happily ever after.  Another part of   
   >>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> plan is to weave ObamaCare into the plots of various popular   
   >>>>>>> prime-time   
   >>>>>>> sitcoms.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I? sure these Hollywood types will have no trouble obliging.  They   
   >>>>>>> are,   
   >>>>>>> after all, among those responsible for this SCOAMF currently   
   >>>>>>> occupying   
   >>>>>>> the White House.  They?e got to do what they can to protect their   
   >>>>>>> guy   
   >>>>>>> in   
   >>>>>>> November.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>         Those that have not been able to afford   
   >>>>>> health care will love being forced to buy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>All that and big business will lose 40 trillion dollars?  Jeez, it   
   >>>>>sounds like your "facts" are a steaming pile of bullshit.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        What is this $40 Trillion all about?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        There are millions of people earning enough   
   >>>> to not be eligible for federal assistance making   
   >>>> the ACA premium payments, but are loaded   
   >>>> down with debt, mortgage, car payments,   
   >>>> and rising costs for everything from food   
   >>>> to gasoline.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        Good the Supreme Court said they can't   
   >>>> be put in jail for not paying the premiums.   
   >>>   
   >>>You mean like giving YOU their bill when they get sick and can't pay?   
   >>>One-third of your hospital bill covers those who do not have insurance   
   >>>and   
   >>>can't pay.   
   >>   
   >>       I don't think so, Medicare pays my bill,   
   >   
   > Overall one-third of a hospital bill is cost-shifting.   
   >   
   > ===============================================   
   >   
   > WTF does THAT even mean?  The point is...THE most expensive delivery   
   > system of healthcare is in emergency rooms...and when conditions haven't   
   > been treated earlier...or preventive measures taken before patients have   
   > gotten sicker.   
   >   
      
   This is true, but it is only a very small part of the overall problem.   
      
   =====================================   
      
   Nice rebuttal.  Typical.  We're supposed to take THAT at face value?  That   
   statement makes little sense.  Certainly addresses nothing.   
      
   But I will agree in this way.  The "for profit" aspect of the health care   
   machine IS probably the biggest culprit.  For profit hospitals...big   
   pharma...insurance behemoths...even wealthy overpaid doctors have a HUGE   
   hand in the problem too.  When exactly DID wealth overtake doing good as a   
   reason to practice medicine?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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