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> On 19/09/2012 1:13 PM, conklin wrote:
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>>> "emoneyjoe" wrote in message
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>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:56:10 -0400, "conklin"
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "emoneyjoe" wrote in message
>>>>> news:r5ih589hr7si2ddom5ue3bf78rcuc9n35p@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:47:20 -0500, trotsky
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/18/12 3:44 AM, emoneyjoe wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:00:00 -0400, Neal Boortz
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hollywood is being called up from the ranks, taking orders from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>>>>> propagandists. Are you ready for this? You see, those who are in
>>>>>>>>> charge
>>>>>>>>> of implementing ObamaCare (and those politicians who passed
>>>>>>>>> ObamaCare)
>>>>>>>>> see their biggest hurdle as Sselling the idea of ObamaCare or
>>>>>>>>> communicating its benefits to the great unwashed. They don? see
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> problem with ObamaCare as, ObamaCare itself! Nope. They think
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> issue is that they can? reach the people to tell them how great it
>>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is where Hollywood comes in. Apparently some PR firm has
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>> hired
>>>>>>>>> to help get out the message. One of their ideas is to use
>>>>>>>>> Hollywood
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> few different ways. One way would be to create a reality show
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> family living without medical coverage. Then along comes Barack
>>>>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>>>>> and his government takeover of our healthcare industry and .. ta
>>>>>>>>> da!
>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>> I? sure this family will live happily ever after. Another part of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> plan is to weave ObamaCare into the plots of various popular
>>>>>>>>> prime-time
>>>>>>>>> sitcoms.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I? sure these Hollywood types will have no trouble obliging. They
>>>>>>>>> are,
>>>>>>>>> after all, among those responsible for this SCOAMF currently
>>>>>>>>> occupying
>>>>>>>>> the White House. They?e got to do what they can to protect their
>>>>>>>>> guy
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> November.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those that have not been able to afford
>>>>>>>> health care will love being forced to buy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All that and big business will lose 40 trillion dollars? Jeez, it
>>>>>>> sounds like your "facts" are a steaming pile of bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is this $40 Trillion all about?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are millions of people earning enough
>>>>>> to not be eligible for federal assistance making
>>>>>> the ACA premium payments, but are loaded
>>>>>> down with debt, mortgage, car payments,
>>>>>> and rising costs for everything from food
>>>>>> to gasoline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good the Supreme Court said they can't
>>>>>> be put in jail for not paying the premiums.
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean like giving YOU their bill when they get sick and can't pay?
>>>>> One-third of your hospital bill covers those who do not have insurance
>>>>> and
>>>>> can't pay.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so, Medicare pays my bill,
>>>
>>> Overall one-third of a hospital bill is cost-shifting.
>>>
>>> ===============================================
>>>
>>> WTF does THAT even mean? The point is...THE most expensive delivery
>>> system of healthcare is in emergency rooms...and when conditions haven't
>>> been treated earlier...or preventive measures taken before patients have
>>> gotten sicker.
>>>
>>
>> This is true, but it is only a very small part of the overall problem.
>>
>>
>
> It's a much larger problem than you can possibly imagine. Take a girl I
> know in Buffalo. She had a cough but didn't go to the doctor cause she
> didn't have the $180 to pay for the visit and the medications she might
> need. She was a student, under 26, but not covered by her parent's plan.
>
> She let the cough go. Turned out to be pneumonia. She ended up in hospital
> for about 2 weeks, on a ventilator for part of it. She almost died.
>
> So, tell me, which would you rather have your taxes and insurance paying
> for? The $180 for a student to see a doctor who would have given her
> anti-biotics or the tens of thousands, likely hundreds of thousands, it
> cost to keep her in the hospital for 2 weeks - part in ICU.
>
> You see, you can't comprehend that not being afraid of seeing the doctor
> for something minor can save you billions of dollars. For every student
> out there with a cough, there are dozens more with similar situations.
> People too afraid to see the doctor, unable to afford it or afraid it will
> cause their insurance to rise or get cancelled.
>
> How can you live with such a guillotine hanging over your heads??
>
> Oh wait...the students won't have to soon. That same girl will be covered
> by her parents plan now.
>
> Health care for profit is obscene.
>
> ..
The issue is the amount of profit.
=======================================
When is profit ever enough. The whole business model determines success by
increasing profit no? So you guarantee increasing the cost of care. Of
course people have no choice when it comes to paying for care. So by using
our typical business approach...with investors demanding a return...we will
always face increasing costs...for something everyone needs. It makes no
sense. Especially since this has become the single greatest cost we face as
a society.
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