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   Message 19,194 of 20,955   
   Herman Rubin to conklin   
   Re: ObamaCare   
   21 Sep 12 19:28:30   
   
   From: hrubin@skew.stat.purdue.edu   
      
   On 2012-09-20, conklin  wrote:   
   >   
   > "Herman Rubin"  wrote in message   
   > news:slrnk5mku4.gfr.hrubin@skew.stat.purdue.edu...   
   >> On 2012-09-20, conklin  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> "Herman Rubin"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:slrnk5khd5.9c7.hrubin@skew.stat.purdue.edu...   
   >>>> On 2012-09-18, conklin  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Bert"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:XnsA0D27FF66DDA3VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.141...   
   >>>>>> In news:ws21-745CC7.13260718092012@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net Bill   
   >>>>>> Steele  wrote:   
   			   
   			......................   
   >   
   > Once again, Herman, your last statement is disproven by the other   
   > industrialized democracies in the world as a whole.  They do have adequate   
   > health coverage for all, and better results too, at half the price.  Sorry   
   > facts always get in our way.  (By the way, facts are not subject to   
   > statistics.  When you have 100% of a population, you just have facts, not a   
   > sample).   
      
   I think you will find that these countries have private care outside   
   their socialized system.   
      
   People who need little medical care will accept coverage of what   
   they need as "adequate", but it does not solve the problem.  Real   
   insurance would be for the rare but costly events.   
      
   Providing coverage which cannot be delivered, or which can only be   
   delivered at exhorbitantly high prices, will not occur.   
      
   Here is a proposal which will be opposed by the insurance companies:   
   do not allow the collusion of reducing rates by insurance companies.   
   This is not allowed in most of business, except for small discounts.   
   It also introduces problems, which is why some providers will not   
   join the insurance companies "preferred groups".   
      
      
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   This address is for information only.  I do not claim that these views   
   are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.   
   Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University   
   hrubin@stat.purdue.edu         Phone: (765)494-6054   FAX: (765)494-0558   
      
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