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"Mason Barge" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:09:11 -0500, "conklin"
wrote:
>
>"Mason Barge" wrote in message
>news:ar5da8lrmicpuqr83ehq5ev6ee5c9dehkm@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:51:31 -0500, Ubiquitous
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"The United States will require at least 52,000 more family doctors in
>>>the year 2025 to keep up with the growing and increasingly older U.S.
>>>population, a new study found," reports ABC News:
>>>
>>> The predictions also reflect the passage of the Affordable
>>> Care Act--a change that will expand health insurance coverage
>>> to an additional 38 million Americans. . . .
>>>
>>> "It's pretty tough to convince medical students to go into
>>> primary care," said Dr. Lee Green, chair of Family Medicine
>>> at the University of Alberta, who was not involved with the
>>> study. . . .
>>>
>>> "[Patients] won't be able to see a primary care physician
>>> hardly," he said. "Primary care will be past saturated with
>>> wait times longer and will not accept any new patients. There
>>> will be an increase in hospitalizations and increase in death
>>> rates for basic preventable things like hypertension that was
>>> not managed adequately."
>>>
>>>But at least a lot more people will have insurance!
>>>
>>>The Montreal Gazette reports on how this works out in a country where
>>>everyone has insurance courtesy of the government:
>>>
>>> Surgery wait times for deadly ovarian, cervical and breast
>>> cancers in Quebec are three times longer than government
>>> benchmarks, leading some desperate patients to shop around
>>> for an operating room.
>>>
>>> But that's a waste of time, doctors say, since the problem is
>>> spread across Quebec hospitals. And doctors are refusing to
>>> accept new patients quickly because they can't treat them,
>>> health advocates say.
>>>
>>> A leading Montreal gynecologist said that these days, she
>>> cannot look her patients in the eye because the wait times
>>> are so shocking. Lack of resources, including nursing staff
>>> and budget compressions, are driving a backlog of surgeries
>>> while operating rooms stand empty. The latest figures from
>>> the provincial government show that over a span of nearly 11
>>> months, 7,780 patients in the Montreal area waited six months
>>> or longer for day surgeries, while another 2,957 waited for six
>>> months or longer for operations that required hospitalization.
>>>
>>> The worst cases are gynecological cancers, experts say, because
>>> usually such a cancer has already spread by the time it is
>>> detected. Instead of four weeks from diagnosis to surgery,
>>> patients are waiting as long as three months to have cancerous
>>> growths removed.
>>>
>>
>> Of course, the logical thing to do is exactly the last thing that the US
>> will do, since they've refused to do it with Medicare -- have
>> federally-paid insurance that pays a reasonable benefit and allow people
>> to pay more if they want to.
>>
>> This is where liberals really get it wrong. The same sort of mindset is
>> behind public school boards resisting charter schools, something we've
>> just had a big fight about in Georgia. (We just voted to allow the state
>> to open charter schools in a district even if the local school board
>> voted
>> them down.)
>
>Charter schools do not better with the same student body as regular schools
>do. Your assumptions are simpy wrong about both medicine AND schools.
And so why do they have to hold lotteries because there are so many more
children who want to go to them than there are spaces available?
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Until charter schools can't pick and choose their students any comparisons
are unfair and irrelevant.
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