XPost: misc.education   
   From: hrubin@skew.stat.purdue.edu   
      
   On 2012-11-19, Obveeus  wrote:   
      
   > "Dano"  wrote:   
      
   >> "Mason Barge"  wrote in message   
   >>> And so why do they have to hold lotteries because there are so many more   
   >>> children who want to go to them than there are spaces available?   
      
   >> =============================================   
      
   >> Until charter schools can't pick and choose their students any comparisons   
   >> are unfair and irrelevant.   
      
   This is ridiculous and stupid.  Those of different abilities   
   SHOULD be going to different schools.  They also should not be   
   grouped by age, but allowed to go at the rates they can in   
   different subjects.   
      
   > In theory, if Charter schools are accepting public funding (vouchers), they   
   > cannot pick and choose their students.  Of course, in practice they still do   
   > since they can do simple things like not provide busing, which all but   
   > eliminates poor families from attending (and poor is closely tied with less   
   > education in the home).   
      
   See the above.  Those teachers, administrators, school board members,   
   etc., who deny children the right to advance because others cannot   
   keep up should pay heavily, both to those denied, and to private   
   schooling which is educationally, rather than socially, oriented.   
      
   The average present value of a year in the life of even a bright,   
   let alone brilliant, child is greater than that of a teacher in   
   a high paying district.  This may even be true in the case in which   
   the ability is only in one STEM subject, or in one of the arts.   
      
   The charter schools are not the answer; they have to conform to   
   the state curriculum in too many respects, and also to the grade   
   system.  We need affordable academic schools, which can teach   
   concepts, not just memorization and regurgitation.  This is not   
   just for humanities, but for the mathematics, science, history,   
   etc.  Government schools cannot now do this; they might have been   
   able to do a better job with the one-room schoolhouse.  Also, due   
   to the hyperegalitarian educationists, most states will not allow   
   what is NEEDED.   
      
   --   
   This address is for information only.  I do not claim that these views   
   are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.   
   Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University   
   hrubin@stat.purdue.edu         Phone: (765)494-6054   FAX: (765)494-0558   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)