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   From: noway@nowhere.com   
      
   On 7/3/2015 4:17 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   > On 7/3/2015 1:09 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >> On 7/3/2015 1:17 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> When LEGISLATION is judged against the constitution, the result is pass   
   >>> or fail. If pass, nothing else. If fail, then the legislation is   
   >>> reworked or abandonded. But when the voters of a state pass an amendment   
   >>> to the constitution, then that is a higher hurdle to knock down than   
   >>> mere legislation passed by a governing body.   
   >>   
   >> When it comes to whether it is constitutional under the federal   
   >> constitution, it makes no difference how it was passed.  Ordinary   
   >> legislation and a state constitutional amendment have to overcome the   
   >> same hurdle.   
   >>   
   >>> Everything in marriage is available through the legal system to gays.   
   >>   
   >> That's not true.  For example, you can't collect spousal Social Security   
   >> benefits if you are not married.   
   >   
   > Then modify the law to have the person name a beneficiary.   
      
   There are over 1000 federal laws that would have to be changed.   
      
   > I did it for my life insurance policy and it wasn't any big deal at all.   
   >   Surely government with its trillion dollar budget and multi-trillion   
   > dollar debt can arrange for something as simple as that.   
   >   
   > And I assure you that NO ONE will object to that on religious, amoral,   
   > or abnormal grounds.   
   >   
   > Wow.  I came up with a solution that is simple AND not divisive.  I'm   
   > special after all!   
      
   The word "marriage" itself has meaning.  It clearly does to you because   
   you strongly object when a gay couple uses the word.  And not   
   surprisingly therefore, it has an equally strong meaning to gay people.   
     Your solution does not bridge that divide.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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