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   Pharma Trolls [Newsgroup & Forum pharma    
   23 Jun 17 10:51:35   
   
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   Pharma Trolls [Newsgroup & Forum pharma trolls]   
      
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   Pharma Trolls   
   Newsgroup & Forum pharma trolls   
      
   [A pharma troll inhabits medical forums, blogs and  newsgroups and   
   attacks/flames non-Allopathic medicine, or defends Allopathy.  They usually   
   are incognito (eg 'Harradine') as they like to appear an impartial unbiased   
   seeker of the truth!  They can then    
   muddy the waters (obfuscate) more easily which is usually enough to keep the   
   unaware confused about the merits of Alternative medicine, and stop the   
   Allopathic from-birth brainwashing (see) from breaking down.   
       The usual modus operandi is Show us the Proof'. Show us the proof and we   
   will use it if valid (yeah, right!).  That game can lead the unaware round in   
   circles for ages.   It won't be long before Anecdote don't count, comes out,   
   or not evidence-based    
   medicine, "No known cure, no known cause   
        This also draws attention away from the fact most Allopathy gets on the   
   market with no evidence of value (eg Chemo) whatsoever, and hides the fact   
   they have a medical Allopathic monopoly (attack is the best defence).  And no   
   amount of evidence is    
   ever going to be enough for these characters, obviously.  The Pope isn't going   
   to covert to Buddhism.]   
   Eg:    
   Case studies are anecdotes. Nice try.....These are anecdotes. DUH. Not   
   data....The courts don't prove anything. Except, maybe, who has the better   
   lawyer or a kid who need sympathy..NVICP doesn't count etc Jeffrey P. Utz,   
   M.D. (alias Robert Watson, Wyle E.   
    Coyote, Jeffrey Peter, M.D)   
   As for being a Pharma Troll, I am simply asking for someone to provide some   
   decent evidence that homepathy works.  How can that possibly be a biased   
   request?  How could anything be more neutral?  That's what scientists ask each   
   other all the time, part    
   of their job- providing evidence. 'Harradine'   
   Occasionally they blow their cover clean out of the water with a paean to   
   Allopathy.  Classic!:   
   "Psychiatric drugs have helped millions!  They are far from a cure, but my   
   God, have you no idea how much antipsychotics have helped?  People with major   
   depression?  The evidence that these drugs have helped millions is   
   overwhelming.  Of course they are    
   not cures!  No one has ever said that they are.  But they have turned people   
   lives around from the days when there were no treatment options at all."---   
   'Harradine'    
   or just a general crude attack:   
   "Hemeopathic medicine is also unproven. It is just distilled water. No wonder   
   it has not been proven."   
   "ADHD, autism, MS, and other stuff has never been linked to vaccinations. They   
   have been hypothesized to be caused by vaccinations. However, good studies   
   have not shown that this is the case."   
   "Chiropractic, naturopathy and homeopathy are worthless. They do not work   
   (except for the practioner's pocketbook)."   
   "Yet human studies show that DPT is safe"  then "DPT is not 100% safe. Nothing   
   is."--Putz   
   Nutritional medical doctors are all assholes    
   "Orthomolecular medicine? That is unproven bullshit. Anyone who buys it is   
   wasting his money."--Putz   
   "Chelation therapy is useless too."   
   "The fact of the matter is that proper diet and nutrition is important for   
   maintaining health. But nurtitional medicine does nothing to cure most   
   diseases."--Putz   
   "Herbal remedies DO NOT work. I guess physicians and other people want to see   
   patients get effective treatment that works without wasting time and moneyon   
   useless crap." Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. (alias Robert Watson, Wyle E. Coyote,   
   Jeffrey Peter, M.D)   
      
       
   http://www.whale.to/vaccine/troll_h.html   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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