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   Don Kresch to All   
   Re: Health Minister in Critical Conditio   
   12 Mar 21 07:02:18   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.usa.misc, misc.education.medical   
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   From: noway@nospam.com   
      
   On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 20:26:31 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
    scrawled in blood:   
      
   >On 3/11/21 3:40 PM, Don Kresch wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 08:04:28 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
   >>  scrawled in blood:   
   >>   
   >>> On 3/11/21 5:03 AM, Don Kresch wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:53:32 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
   >>>>  scrawled in blood:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> 	If anti-vaxxers die it may not be sad but families will cry   
   >>>>> mothers,sisters, wives and daughters weep while male relatives will try   
   >>>>> to keep a stiff uppper lip and avoid the tears. Even if you are a   
   >>>>> hopeless person someone will be affected by your death.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> 	Choose life and get vaccinated against the killer dieases.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 	You mean a disease with a 99.96% survival rate?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 	Doesn't sound like a very "killer" disease to me. Certainly   
   >>>> not on the level of ebola.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Don   
   >>>> aa#51   
   >>>> o- DNRC   
   >>>> Jedi Slackmaster   
   >>>>   
   >>>         Well survival numbers vary widely depending on age and initial   
   >>> conditions of the Individual.  It also depends on wealth and access to   
   >>> truly modern medical treatment.   523,000 dead people,   
   >>   
   >> 	Of which, ACCORDING TO THE CDC SO THERE'S NO WHINING ABOUT   
   >> FAKE NEWS, only 6% actually died from it. The other 94% had an average   
   >> of 2.7 other contributing factors. Which means: about 31k actually   
   >> from the virus. Which, IIRC, is slightly less than what the flu kills   
   >> every year. So: yeah. Just not impressed.   
   >>   
   >> 	Also consider that there would be fewer deaths had places like   
   >> New York not *mandated* that old folks homes take covid patients.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> 	Also anti-vaxxers tend to keep their children from getting vaccinations   
   >>> against things like Diptheria, which used to kill lots of   
   >>> children,  They depend on Pro-vaxxers and the herd immunity that they   
   >>> develop to keep their children well.   
   >>   
   >> 	Herd immunity can happen in other ways.   
   >>   
   >> Don   
   >> aa#51   
   >> o- DNRC   
   >> Jedi Slackmaster   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   >	My ancestors survived the black death in Europe.   
   >	I may have inherited some immunity but I do not play with ground   
   >squirrels in California.  You are free to move into the distant   
   >countryside and try to develop herd immunity to all sorts of illnesses.   
   >But it will be hard on the children. Some number of my mother's sisters   
   >and brothers died of the Influenza around 1916.   
      
   	Are you looking for pity?   
      
   >   
   >        She survived fortunately for me. Otherwise 1937 would contain one   
   >less birthday. So did her older sister.  I was sheltered in my youth and   
   >sick a lot of the time.  That was the time of the Polio epidemic before   
   >the polio vaccine.  It might not kill you but some of my HS friends had   
   >survived to be lame the rest of their lives.   
      
   	Shame.   
      
   >   
   >	In the 1950s I was lucky enough to get the Hong Kong Flu as   
   >it was named by the newspapers.  Later on we would have more varieties   
   >of influenza with a fresh version due every year thanks to the sloppy   
   >duck tending of Asian livestock tenders.   
      
   	Amazing how there was no lockdown, and people survived.   
      
   >   
   >	Then we had the HIV-AIDs which decimated my list of friends and   
   >wiped out the survivors' lists of friends.  People who ignored medical   
   >precautions and played like it was 20 years earlier young and old died.   
      
   	And there was still no lockdown.   
      
   >   
   >	So now we have Covid-19 and a large percentage of the population   
   >refuses to follow medically advised precautions and further refuses to   
   >take the vaccines.  Big bunch of sissies afraid of needles.  If they   
   >hold tight to these attitudes pretty soon their will be no Republican   
   >voters.   
      
   	And there we have it: partisan bullshit.   
      
   	You're part of the problem.   
      
   Don   
   aa#51   
   o- DNRC   
   Jedi Slackmaster   
      
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