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   Bill Pfister to CaLaVeRa   
   Re: Washington City Says No to Raising "   
   10 Jun 24 15:05:10   
   
   XPost: alt.transgendered, talk.politics.guns, seattle.politics   
   XPost: sac.politics   
   From: nobody@there.org   
      
   On 6/10/2024 10:29 AM, CaLaVeRa wrote:   
   > On 6/10/2024 12:36 AM, Government Sanctioned Assault On Males wrote:   
   >> A Seattle-area city has voted against raising the so-called Pride Flag   
   >> during June, which has become de facto holiday for the LGBTQ   
   >> community. The   
   >> Newcastle, Washington, city council voted 4-3 against a motion from   
   >> council   
   >> member Paul Charbonneau to raise the flag.   
   >>   
   >> Mayor Robert Clark asserted that the city already flies the “most   
   >> unifying   
   >> symbol in the history of the world” — the American Flag. Clark said   
   >> that, as   
   >> a rule, the city does not do proclamations of any kind.   
   >>   
   >> “I brought forward the motion because raising the Pride flag is an easy   
   >> thing for us to do as a local government to show the LGBTQIA+   
   >> community that   
   >> we see them and that we value them,” said Charbonneau. “Many groups have   
   >> been historically underrepresented in local government, including the   
   >> LGBTQIA+ community, and raising the flag as we have in past years   
   >> shows them   
   >> that their government cares about them and invites them to engage with   
   >> us.”   
   >>   
   >> But it’s an unnecessary and potentially divisive measure, according to   
   >> the   
   >> mayor.   
   >>   
   >> “Proclamation says a city directs the people to honor, respect, or   
   >> support a   
   >> certain thing or item,” Clark said. “Well, what if the people in the   
   >> community don’t do that? If we say you have to support this because we   
   >> proclaimed it, but certain people in the community say no.”   
   >>   
   >> “The most unifying symbol in the history of the world flies over this   
   >> city   
   >> council every day,” Clark offered. “That’s the American flag. That’s   
   >> diverse   
   >> enough for me. That includes everybody in the community.”   
   >>   
   >> Clark further pointed out that raising the flag of one group opens up   
   >> Pandora’s Box when it comes to city recognition of alternative groups.   
   >>   
   >> “If we start raising flags, then we’ve got to raise everybody’s. Do   
   >> you want   
   >> a Hamas flag flying over the City of Newcastle? Or a MAGA flag. How   
   >> about a   
   >> Trump flag or an Antifa flag?” Clark asked. “We’re not going there   
   >> folks,”   
   >>   
   >> According to council member Sun Burford, who voted the raise the Pride   
   >> Flag,   
   >> the decision marks a move backward for the city.   
   >>   
   >> “This decision, made despite the flag being flown for over four years,   
   >> is a   
   >> step backward for our community,” Burford told KOMO News. “The   
   intolerant   
   >> comments made by some council members are alarming and anachronistic. Our   
   >> community deserves better. We deserve leaders who embrace inclusivity,   
   >> diversity, and acceptance. I urge our council to reconsider the   
   >> decision and   
   >> show our support for the LGBTQ+ community.”   
   >>   
   >> Clark further explained his stance against the “Pride” flag in a written   
   >> statement.   
   >>   
   >> “My position is that government should be very limited. The First   
   >> Amendment   
   >> was created for a reason. To allow freedom of assembly, speech, and   
   >> religion,” the mayor explained. “The government has no right to tell   
   >> people   
   >> what to say, what to think, or what to do.”   
   >>   
   >> “Raising a flag or issuing a statement says this is what the government   
   >> believes, and since the government represents all the people the clear   
   >> inference is that everyone in the community also believes it. This is   
   >> false   
   >> on every issue, no matter how harmless,” Clark contended.   
   >>   
   >> One Pride adherent, Corrinalyn Guyette, was particularly incensed that   
   >> Clark   
   >> lumped the Pride movement in with Hamas.   
   >>   
   >> “He [the mayor] referenced and compared the Pride flag to the Hamas flag.   
   >> That comparison is outrageous. That’s just icing on the cake, for the   
   >> community to just stand back and say, ‘How could he of even made that   
   >> statement?’”   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> A protest against the city council’s decision is scheduled for June 18,   
   >> where proponents will gather in their “rainbow, colorful glory.”   
   >>   
   >> https://thenewamerican.com/us/culture/washington-city-says-no-to-raising-   
   >> pride-flag/   
   >>   
   >   
   > GOD BLESS NEWCASTLE!   
      
   Good for them!  All it takes is the guts to stand up and say no to this   
   stupid gay silliness.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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