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|    Trump-Kim talks: Fantastic, indeed    |
|    12 Jun 18 12:48:39    |
      XPost: uk.politics.misc, sac.politics, alt.politics.trump       XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, misc.survivalism       From: emailbarry@yahoo.com              What did you make of the bank of star-spangled banners alongside North       Korea’s Ramhongsaek Konghwagukgi (flag) displayed in Singapore’s       Capella Hotel today? From a purely visual perspective, the red, white       and blue and the stars of the American and North Korean flags could       not have been better coordinated — at times, it seemed the two       countries’ flags were playing an optical illusion of merging into one.       Oh, the irony.              Even Kim Jong Un was keen to deftly point out to President Trump that       their historic encounter was a scene from a science fiction movie.       Collected, as he generally appeared, the young leader most likely had       some pinch-me-now moments as he stood face-to-face with the leader of       the world’s most powerful nation — finally.                     ADVERTISEMENT       We thought we’d never live to see this moment, first and foremost       because it seemed outright inconceivable to have an incumbent U.S.       president sit cordially in the same room with the leader of the       world’s most oppressive and still-standing authoritarian regime. Not       to mention, U.S.-North Korea relations in the lead-up to the       Democratic People's Republic of Korea’s charm offensive during the       Pyeongchang Winter Olympics took a turn for the worst, with bilateral       tensions boiling near the brink of war. Amidst the “fire and fury”       rhetoric, with both Trump and Kim being a hair’s breadth away from       reaching for the nuclear button, a summit was the last thing we could       hope for. Never say never.                     And so the anticipated Trump-Kim summit took place, with decorum and       cordiality but less fanfare than the April inter-Korean summit,       apposite to a practical meeting. The president shook Kim’s hand on       multiple occasions, frequently patted the young dictator on the back,       and even complimented the North Korean leader as being “talented.”       Manners, smiles and thumbs-upping aside, what did the summit       accomplish?              In the lead-up to the summit, skeptics — realists — tempered       expectations of any tangible deliverables from the Trump-Kim meeting.       Washington had insisted upon Pyongyang’s "complete, verifiable and       irreversible denuclearization" (CVID) before any real progress could       begin economically and politically for the Kim regime; many also       called for addressing the North’s egregious human rights violations       during the talks.              But given the condensed time frame of summit preparations and the       70-year-old behemoth of the North Korea problem — nuclear weapons,       Pyongyang’s human rights record, settlement of the Korean War, illicit       activities, not to mention the regime’s unpredictability and the       regional implications of the summit — to have expected a neatly laid       out path forward with North Korea would have been unreasonable.              So we weren’t completely surprised when, at the conclusion of the       summit, Washington and Pyongyang announced four broad joint goals       moving forward: establishing new U.S.-North Korea relations for peace       and prosperity, a lasting peace regime on the Korean Peninsula,       complete denuclearization of the peninsula, and the recovery and       repatriation of POW/MIA remains in North Korea. Interestingly, the       joint statement underscored mutual confidence-building as a way to       promote denuclearization of the peninsula.              CVID having been the linchpin in gauging the summit’s success, it’s       remarkable that this language does not appear in the joint statement —       nor was it referenced by either side during the talks. At the press       briefing following the summit, President Trump was asked on several       occasions by reporters whether North Korea had agreed to CVID. The       president, however, was short on details and a timetable for possible       next steps to verify Pyongyang’s denuclearization.              And yet, North Korea’s nuclear weapons had been the most critical       point of contention between Washington and Pyongyang — not to mention,       the central issue and impetus for the Trump-Kim summit in the first       place. That this decisive piece was left out of the joint statement       seems amiss.              President Trump, following the summit, told the media that Secretary       of State Mike Pompeo and national security adviser John Bolton will be       meeting with the North Koreans again, as early as next week, to hash       out the details of the joint statement. The two sides will meet “many       times,” he said. It remains to be seen whether the details on       denuclearization will be announced in subsequent meetings.              It might be too early to tell whether the summit was a success — and       for whom. But as some South Korean pundits have pointed out, Kim has       scored a few points just for showing up. The juxtaposition of the       North Korean flag with the American Stars and Stripes, the first-ever       meeting with a U.S. president, plus Kim’s ease in portraying himself       to the public as being “no different” from other world leaders have       boosted his legitimacy and standing as a leader.              Kim not only has rounded off his spiky dictator image; he also may       have softened the hearts and loosened the purse strings of the leaders       of South Korea, Japan, perhaps even China and Singapore. As a case in       point, even before the summit wrapped up, South Koreans in the Kaesong       inter-Korean complex were hopeful to revive the joint economic       activities with North Korea.              And so, a couple things to chew on as we continue to process and       digest the outcome of the Singapore talks. Kim had much to gain by       coming to the talks. But what did Pyongyang give back in return? And       what did Washington gain?              One final thought for careful consideration, back to President Trump’s       compliment of Kim: “He’s a very talented [leader].”              http://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/391791-trump-kim-ta       ks-fantastic-indeed              Why didn't Obama do this? Was he scared?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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