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   On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:10:56 -0700, usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3 (Paul   
   Mitchum) wrote:   
      
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:12:15 -0700, usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3 (Paul   
   >> Mitchum) wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >The real problem is not Iraq or the Iraqis, it's the out-of-their-depth   
   >> >stunned-and-treading-water mindset of the administration. That's what   
   >> >has to be addressed first and foremost. Once that happens, then   
   >> >everything else falls into place, and *of course* a new Marshall plan is   
   >> >an excellent model. Iraq can't wait until after the election, either, so   
   >> >it had better happen soon.   
   >>   
   >> Yeah unfortunately its seems we're going to need regime change at home   
   >> though to have a chance at such a change.   
   >   
   >It's interesting because Kerry has only talked in broad terms about what   
   >he'd do. I think it's difficult for him, because he doesn't want to be   
   >seen as undermining whatever it is that Bush is doing (and, uh.. what IS   
   >Bush doing?), but at the same time he'd like to put out a more detailed   
   >plan.   
      
      
   It's hard to run against when over 60% of the public says they still   
   support the war, and yet only 40% believe Bush has managed it an   
   adequately.   
      
   So the issue becomes management - not the war itself. And as we';ve   
   been saying since a pull out is impractical there's no point in it as   
   a campaign issue.  Though he is saying we need the UN and "a real   
   coalition".   
      
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