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|    Hanoi John Kerry LIES About Anti-war Act    |
|    13 Apr 04 21:00:25    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.fan.barbra.streisand, alt.fan.j-garofalo       XPost: alt.fan.julia-roberts       From: hpgoldfinger@N0SPAM.C0M              Hanoi John Kerry LIES About Anti-war Activities Because He Hates       America.                     Marc Morano       Thursday, March 18, 2004              A Vietnam War historian and supporter of Democrat presidential       candidate John Kerry has told CNSNews.com that Kerry is lying about       key events related to his anti-war activities in 1971. Kerry said he       hasn't spoken to former anti-war associate Al Hubbard since the two       men appeared side by side on national television in April 1971, but       according to author Gerald Nicosia, that assertion is wrong. So is       Kerry's       insistence that he did not attend a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam       Veterans Against the War, at which group members discussed the       possibility of assassinating U.S. senators who were still supporting       the war in Vietnam, Nicosia said.              Nicosia backed up his comments regarding Kerry's presence at the       November 1971 meeting by providing CNSNews.com with the FBI's redacted       files about that meeting.              Questions about events that happened 33 years ago continue to nag the       Kerry candidacy as the Massachusetts Democrat's November match-up       against President Bush comes into sharper focus.              Kerry faces increasing skepticism about answers he gave to certain       questions as well as recent statements he made, including his claim       that some foreign leaders had told him they were hopeful Bush would be       defeated this year.              Among the questions surrounding Kerry's involvement as a 27-year-old       anti-war protester are those about his relationship with Hubbard, the       former executive director of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Kerry       and Hubbard appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press" on April 18, 1971 to       argue for an end to the war.              But shortly thereafter, Hubbard, who had been introduced on the NBC       program as a decorated Air Force captain, was exposed for having       exaggerated his military credentials. A separate news investigation       revealed that there were no military records showing that Hubbard had       either served in Vietnam or was       injured there.              Last week, during a Capitol Hill news conference, CNSNews.com asked       Kerry whether he was still in touch with Hubbard or whether he was       willing to repudiate him because of Hubbard's fabricated war record.              "I haven't talked to Al Hubbard since that week" of the "Meet the       Press" appearance, Kerry replied. He also said he did not believe that       VVAW's credibility was hurt as a result of Hubbard falsifying his war       record.              Bull              But Gerald Nicosia, author of the book "Home to War: A History of the       Vietnam Veterans' Movement" and a Kerry supporter, disagreed with       Kerry's contention that he and Hubbard saw no more of each other after       the week of April 18, 1971.              "That is bull****. No, no, [Kerry] saw [Hubbard] at numerous meetings       after that, including the one I talk about in my book, the July       meeting in St. Louis," Nicosia told CNSNews.com.              [Kerry] saw [Hubbard] in July, and according to FBI [files on Vietnam       Veterans Against the War] and the minutes of those meetings, [Kerry]       probably saw him in November [1971] too," Nicosia said.              200 Witnesses              Kerry and Hubbard had a heated argument at the St. Louis meeting in       July that was "witnessed by 200 veterans," according to Nicosia.              Despite the presidential candidate's claim last week that Hubbard had       not hurt the anti-war group's credibility in 1971, Kerry actually       believed otherwise, according to Nicosia.              "There was a big fight with Al Hubbard in which Kerry confronted him       and they were screaming at each other across the hall," Nicosia       explained. Hubbard, who had ties to the radical Black Panthers, and       Kerry "couldn't have been more opposite personalities," Nicosia said.              The simmering tension between the two men finally reached a boil in       St. Louis, Nicosia said, with Kerry shouting, "Who are you, Al       Hubbard? Are you even really a veteran?              "So it was a big screaming match," he added.              'Awkward Position'              Nicosia told CNSNews.com he was uncomfortable disputing Kerry's       statements.              "I am in kind of an awkward position here. I am a Kerry supporter, and       I certainly don't want to do anything that hurts him. On the other       hand, my number one allegiance is to truth. So I am going to go with       where the facts are, and John is going to have to deal with that,"       Nicosia said.              "I am having some problems with the things he is saying right now,       which are not matching up with accuracy," he added.              Talk of Assassinating Senators              Nicosia also disputed Kerry's denial that he was in attendance when       VVAW members met in Kansas City in November 1971 to discuss the       possibility of assassinating U.S. senators still committed to the       Vietnam War.              Kerry was at the meeting, Nicosia insisted, pointing to FBI files and       the minutes from the VVAW meeting, which he has obtained. "The minutes       of the meeting, November 12th through the 15th, it's got John Kerry       there, it's got John Kerry resigning there on the third day," Nicosia       said.              Nicosia provided CNSNews.com with a copy of the FBI's redacted files       of that November 1971 VVAW meeting. The files refer to the fact that       Kerry had "resigned for 'personal reasons.'"              "You are talking to a Kerry supporter, but I will tell you, after       everything that I have heard and seen, I would conclude that he was       there," he added.              'Negative Thing'              Nicosia said he was not sure why Kerry is answering questions on the       issue in the manner he is.              "Why didn't Clinton say he [had sex with] Monica Lewinsky? It took him       until he had to be confronted with the hard evidence before he said he       did," Nicosia said.              "I think [Kerry] may be worried or the people around him may be       worried that his association with VVAW is a very negative thing and       they want John to back away from it," he said.              Nicosia concluded with advice for Kerry.              "The chickens are coming home to roost, and unfortunately he is       starting to backtrack, and I personally don't think backtracking is       going to work because people are going to go at him and find the       discrepancies," Nicosia said.              As recently as two days ago, Kerry's presidential campaign spokesman       David Wade told the New York Sun, "Kerry was not at the Kansas City       meeting." Wade added that Kerry had resigned from the VVAW "sometime       in the summer of 1971."                     --       Left-wing liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being. They       are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,       selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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