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   "Guardenman" wrote in message   
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   > The ACLU is an organization dedicated to protecting the rights   
   > guaranteed in the constitution.   
      
   In your left-wing dreams.   
      
   If you think there is something wrong   
   > with that, you need to think some more.   
      
   NO, but I do think there is something wrong with defending NAMBLA and   
   promoting sex with children. Do you?   
      
   ACLU to Defend NAMBLA   
      
    Associated Press   
    Aug. 31, 2000   
      
    BOSTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union will represent a group that   
   advocates sex between men and boys in a lawsuit brought by the family of a   
   slain 10-year-old.   
      
    The family of Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge said the North American Man/Boy   
   Love Association and its web site which is now off-line incited the   
   attempted molestation and murder of the boy on Oct. 1, 1997.   
      
    One of two men convicted in the killing, Charles Jaynes, 25, reportedly   
   viewed the group's web site shortly before the killing, and also had in his   
   possession some of NAMBLA's publications. Also convicted in the killing was   
   24-year-old Salvatore Sicari.   
      
    The ACLU said the case, filed in federal court in mid-May, involves issues   
   of freedom of speech and association.   
      
    "For us, it is a fundamental First Amendment case," John Roberts,   
   executive director of the Massachusetts branch of the ACLU, told Boston   
   Globe Wednesday. "It has to do with communications on a web site, and   
   material that does not promote any kind of criminal behavior whatsoever."   
      
    ACLU officials said NAMBLA members deny encouraging coercion, rape or   
   violence.   
      
    Attorney Lawrence Frisoli, who represents the Curleys, said he is glad the   
   ACLU is defending NAMBLA, because he has had trouble locating the group's   
   members.   
      
    Harvey Silverglate, an ACLU board member, said Wednesday that the group's   
   attorneys will try to block any attempt by the Curleys to get NAMBLA's   
   membership lists, or other materials identifying members.   
      
    The ACLU also will act as a surrogate for NAMBLA, allowing its members to   
   defend themselves in court while remaining anonymous.   
      
    According to the Globe, NAMBLA officials in the past have said their main   
   goal is the abolition of age-of-consent laws that classify sex with children   
   as rape.   
      
    At two separate trials last year, prosecutors said Jaynes and Sicari were   
   sexually obsessed with the boy, lured him from his Cambridge neighborhood   
   with the promise of a new bike, and then smothered him with a   
   gasoline-soaked rag when he resisted their sexual advances. They then   
   stuffed him into a concrete-filled container and dumped it into a Maine   
   river.   
      
    Sicari, convicted of first-degree murder, is serving a life sentence   
   without the possibility of parole. Jaynes' second-degree murder and   
   kidnapping convictions enable him to seek parole in 23 years.   
      
    The Curleys last week were awarded $328 million by a superior court jury   
   in a civil suit against Jaynes and Sicari   
      
      
   --   
    "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the   
   state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek   
   social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class,   
   and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.   
   It all sums up into one single purpose -- the abolition of dog-eat-dog   
   under which we live. I don't regret being part of the communist   
   tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I   
   wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United   
   Front road to get it."   
   -- Roger Baldwin, Co-Founder ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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