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|    Banned From Russian Airspace, U.S. Airli    |
|    27 Mar 23 08:41:35    |
      From: lessgovt@gmail.com              Banned From Russian Airspace, U.S. Airlines Look to Restrict Competitors       By Kate Kelly and Mark Walker, March 17, 2023, NY Times              WASHINGTON — Unable to fly through Russian airspace because of the war in       Ukraine, U.S. airlines are stepping up a lobbying campaign on Capitol Hill and       at the White House to address what they say is a growing problem: They are       losing business to        foreign competitors who can take passengers between the United States and Asia       faster and more cheaply.              Effectively banned from the polar routes that save time and fuel between the       US and an array of destinations on the other side of the world, U.S. carriers       say they are being forced into an aeronautical version of Twister to get       passengers where they want        to go without taking undue risks.              They have altered trans-Pacific flight plans to ensure they would have       somewhere to land in an emergency, reduced passenger and cargo loads to hold       down costs as they fly longer distances, and put on hold more than a dozen       planned new routes to Mumbai,        Tokyo, Seoul and other cities.              On its route from New Delhi to New York City, American Airlines has been       forced to stop flights in Bangor, Maine — an hour and a half short of the       mark — on 19 occasions, a person familiar with the recent history said.       Those stops, which were        typically caused by unfavorable winds or weather that depleted the jet fuel       supply and ran out the flight crew’s duty hours, delayed passengers and       forced a swap-out of 14 pilots and flight attendants.              Those flights were already operating with dozens of the seats deliberately       left unfilled, the person added, because less weight on board was required to       make the fuel last as long as possible.              Yet many foreign airlines are not banned from flying over Russia, U.S.       airlines and their lobbyists say — and are winning more passengers on routes       to and from the United States as a result. Continued access to the shorter and       more fuel-efficient        routes that Russian airspace provides is giving carriers like Air India,       Emirates and China Eastern Airlines an unfair advantage, the industry lobbying       group Airlines for America said in a recent presentation on Capitol Hill.              Airlines for America estimated the lost annual market share of U.S. carriers       at a collective $2 billion per year.              “Foreign airlines using Russian airspace on flights to and from the U.S. are       gaining a significant competitive advantage over U.S. carriers in major       markets, including China and India,” the presentation, dated February, said.       “This situation is        directly to the benefit of foreign airlines and at the expense of the United       States as a whole, with fewer connections to key markets, fewer high paying       airline jobs” and a dent in the overall economy.              U.S. airlines for years had access to Russian airspace through a series of       agreements with Moscow. In exchange for that access, they — and other       foreign airlines — paid fees to the Russian government for air traffic       control support that amounted to        hundreds of millions of dollars per year, according to an airline official and       an industry advocate.              But after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last year prompted govt officials in       the US, Britain, Canada and Europe to ban Russian aircraft from flying over       their airspace, President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia immediately prohibited       the United States and        other supporters of Ukraine, including Canada and much of Europe, from flying       through his skies.              Now airlines are pressing the White House and Congress to fix the problem by       subjecting foreign carriers from nations not already banned from Russian       airspace to the same restrictions applied to U.S. airlines, effectively       forcing them to fly the same        routes as their American competitors.              The Biden admin should “take action to ensure that foreign carriers       overflying Russia do not depart, land or transit through U.S. airports,”       said Marli Collier, an Airlines for America spokeswoman.              The proposal appears to have gained traction with the Transportation Dept,       which recently drafted an order that would ban Chinese carriers that fly       passengers to the United States from flying through Russian airspace,       according to three people who were        briefed on the order. The order was presented to a group of Biden       administration officials, including members of the national security team, on       Monday, two of those people said, and has been under consideration this week       along with other proposed policy        measures.              Transportation Dept officials declined to comment. But national security       officials are mindful of the potential diplomatic consequences of steps aimed       at a longtime ally like India, or of adding further tension to the already       strained relationship with        China.              A spokesperson at the State Dept, which is involved in an interagency govt       review of the airspace issues, said the department was aware of the concerns       and regards the safety of U.S. citizens on foreign soil as a top priority.              “It’s just unfortunate for our air carriers that this has been a       collateral issue,” said Manisha Singh, a former assistant secretary for the       bureau of economic and business affairs at the State Department who now runs a       consulting firm in        Washington. “I think we should do anything we can,” she added, noting that       the United States should “be careful” before taking steps that might       offend foreign countries and affect U.S. tourism and commerce as a result.              Representatives for Delta, American, and United Airlines, the domestic       carriers most involved in the lobbying effort, referred questions to Airlines       for America, which praised a recent letter by Senate Foreign Relations       Committee members to Secretary of        State Antony J. Blinken and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg echoing       the group’s talking points.              “When foreign airlines overfly Russian territory, even if they do not expect       to land on Russian soil, they run the risk of unplanned diversions in Russia       for safety, medical, mechanical or more nefarious reasons,” wrote Senator       Bob Menendez, Democrat        of New Jersey, the panel’s chairman, and Senator Jim Risch of Idaho, its       senior Republican. The State and Transportation Departments have not yet       responded to the letter, according to someone who has been briefed on the       exchange.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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