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|    CAPITALISM SIMPLY CANNOT WORK WITHOUT SO    |
|    15 Jun 23 08:06:01    |
      From: video61atarisales@gmail.com              going back hundreds of years capitalism has collapsed on average every 7.5       years, requiring a social bailout, CAPITALISM SIMPLY CANNOT WORK WITHOUT       SOCIALISTS OVER SITE, WE TRIED IT BEFORE, ITS FAILED EVERY SINGLE TIME, IT       SIMPLY CANNOT WORK              "Hyman Minsky contended that financial instability and crises emerge out of       the logic of capitalist market activity itself.              This is why, in Minsky’s view, economic upswings without regulations       inevitably encourage speculative excesses, which cause financial bubbles. In       an unregulated environment, Minsky explained, the only way to eliminate       bubbles is to let them burst.        Financial markets then fall into a crisis, resulting in a recession or       depression.              "Minsky saw this system of regulations and bailout operations as largely       successful. From the end of World War II to the mid-1970s, markets in the       United States and abroad were much more stable than in any previous historical       period. But even during the        New Deal years and the initial post-World War II period, financial market       titans around the world fought vehemently to eliminate, or at least defang,       the regulations. By the 1970s almost all politicians—Democrats and       Republicans alike—had become        compliant. The regulations were initially weakened, then abolished altogether       in 1999 under President Bill Clinton and the guidance of his top economic       advisors—Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Lawrence Summers."              "As bailouts have prevented full-scale market crashes—and thereby allowed       market speculators to escape the full consequences of their exce       ses—financial institutions and market trading have, accordingly, grown       exponentially under neoliberalism. For        example, as of 1980, stock market trading in U.S. markets was double what       corporations spent on productive investments, such as machines, buildings,       land, and R&D. As of 2019 U.S. stock market trading had ballooned to 30 times       the amount spent on        productive investments. In other words, the ratio of stock market trading to       productive investments has increased fifteen-fold in the neoliberal era."              "The problem with practice what you preach capitalism is that it has been       tried, and the results are well-documented. It was under this approach that       financial markets collapsed regularly throughout most of the history of       capitalism. Charles Kindleberger        described this pattern in his classic 1978 work Manias, Panics, and Crashes,       in which he framed his historical analysis within Minsky’s Wall Street       Paradigm. Kindleberger’s discussion begins with the notorious South Sea       Bubble in 1720, during which        the South Sea Company, a failing British slave-trading firm, managed to       massively, if briefly, profit from obtaining inside information on how the       British government was managing its debt. Kindleberger reveals that between       this 1720 South Sea bubble        fiasco and the 1929 Wall Street crash, financial crises occurred in the United       States and Europe an average of approximately every 7.5 years (a pattern       recognized 100 years earlier by Karl Marx). The press reports of the crises       that spanned the roughly        200 years include: “One of the fiercest financial storms of the century,”       in Britain in 1772; in Germany in 1857, “So complete and classic a panic has       never been seen before”; and in 1929 in the United States, “The greatest       cycle of speculative        boom and collapse in modern times—since, in fact, the South Sea Bubble.”              "Through allowing firms to fail, we would return to a self-regulating variant       of capitalism. The problem is we have tried this, and financial markets       collapsed regularly.              At our present historical juncture, it would require a huge leap of faith to       assume that the self-regulating properties of free markets could deliver a       stable version of capitalism on their own. They have never succeeded in doing       so in the past. Moreover,        the extent to which contemporary capitalism has become financialized would       make any such experiment in market self-regulation far riskier than it ever       was in the 200 years that Kindleberger describes."...              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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