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|    Drones Everywhere: How the Technological    |
|    30 Sep 23 22:19:49    |
      From: lessgovt@gmail.com              Drones Everywhere: How the Technological Revolution on Ukraine Battlefields Is       Reshaping Modern Warfare       By Yaroslav Trofimov, Sept. 28, 2023, WSJ       “The days of massed armored assaults, taking many kilometers of ground at a       time, like we did in 2003 in Iraq—that stuff is gone because the drones have       become so effective now,” said retired U.S. Army Sergeant First Class       Bradley Crawford, an Iraq        war veteran who is now training Ukrainian forces near Bakhmut in a private       capacity.              And, in a potential conflict with a lesser power, America’s overall military       edge may also not be as decisive as previously thought. “It’s a question       of cost,” said Phillips O’Brien, a professor of strategic studies at the       University of St.        Andrews in Scotland. “If you can destroy an expensive, heavy system for       something that costs much much less, then actually the power differential       between the two countries doesn’t matter as much.”              For instance, each FPV drone, a type of weapon that entered widespread use       this summer, costs a fraction of a regular 155mm artillery shell, which is       worth some $3,000, let alone main battle tanks priced at millions of dollars.              Yet the drones now have the precision and speed to catch up with any moving       armored vehicle and, if piloted expertly, can disable even the most modern       tanks and howitzers. Their cheapness also means that they can be used against       any target of opportunity,        including cars and small groups of soldiers, emptying out the roads within       several miles of the front line.              Center “A” is one of many Ukrainian forces operating FPV drones. Since       June 1, the center’s FPV crews in eastern and southern Ukraine have hit 113       Russian tanks, 111 fighting vehicles and 68 artillery systems, causing nearly       700 Russian casualties,        according to the unit.              During a few hours one recent morning in Chasiv Yar, Center “A” operators       used FPV drones armed with World War II-vintage antitank bombs to destroy, in       addition to the pickup truck, two parked Russian military vehicles. They also       flew a drone into        the window of a Bakhmut high-rise after spotting Russian soldiers—likely       also drone operators—moving the curtains. A separate observation drone       recorded the resulting explosions.              The Russians, too, have formidable—and fast-improving—drone capabilities       of their own. Minutes after the Center “A” team tried to establish a       position in the Chasiv Yar high-rise, it was spotted by a Russian drone and       the building was targeted by        mortar fire. The Ukrainian troopers quickly ran from the building and then       filtered back in groups of two, at long intervals.              While drones have played an outsize role in Ukraine since Russia’s       full-scale invasion began in February 2022, both the sheer number of unmanned       aircraft and their effectiveness have increased significantly, with Moscow       quickly catching up and        sometimes surpassing Ukraine’s capabilities. New types of drones, developed       domestically and imported, are reaching the battlefield all the        ime—including naval drones that Ukraine has successfully used to damage       Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Many        drones that were effective just months earlier have become outdated fast and       need to be re-engineered to defeat enemy jamming, commanders say.              “Nothing stands firm,” said the commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Vice Adm.       Oleksiy Neizhpapa, in an interview. “War is the time when technology       develops. Every operation is different, and if you repeat it the same way, it       would make no sense        because the enemy already has an antidote.”              The last time any side made a rapid breakthrough on the ground was the       Ukrainian offensive in the Kharkiv and Donetsk regions in September and       October last year. At the time, the Ukrainians achieved surprise by taking       advantage of undermanned and under-       fortified Russian positions.              The subsequent Ukrainian advance in Kherson last November was the result of       Himars missile strikes disrupting Russian logistics to such a point that the       Russians chose to withdraw.              Since last fall, however, Russia has mobilized hundreds of thousands of       troops, plugging gaps in defense and laying out extensive minefields and       fortifications. Crucially, it has also saturated the front line with drones.              In June, as Ukraine kicked off its counteroffensive, every time its forces       gathered more than a few tanks and infantry fighting vehicles together, their       columns were quickly spotted by ubiquitous Russian drones and then targeted by       a combination of        artillery, missiles fired from choppers and swarms of drones. Minefields       channeled these columns into kill zones.              The Russian military faced the same fate when it gathered a large tank force       of its own in an attempt to push into the city of Vuhledar in January, and in       subsequent smaller attempts at armored offensives. Noticed by Ukrainians from       the air, these        columns were also swiftly destroyed.              After initial heavy losses of Western-supplied tanks and fighting vehicles,       Ukrainian troops have now switched to operating in small groups that are       ferried toward the front line using armored personnel carriers, and then       attempt to advance one tree line        after another.              Drones of all kinds have become increasingly important in the Ukrainian war. A       Center ‘A’ operator sits next to a Ukrainian-made RAM strike drone.              Continuing to move forward, the Ukrainians seized several villages on the       southern front in the Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk regions, and, in recent days,       broke through Russian lines south of Bakhmut to take the villages of Andriivka       and Klishchiivka. During        the Russian offensive between November and May, Moscow scored no notable gains       except for Bakhmut.              “Unfortunately, most of our offensive is now on foot,” said Lt. Gen.       Kyrylo Budanov, the commander of HUR. “You could see a mirror picture last       fall, when the Russians were carrying out their own offensive, above all in       Bakhmut. The same way, the        use of heavy armor was minimal, everyone was waging war on foot. I don’t       think anything will be different now.”                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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