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      From: video61atarisales@gmail.com              On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 1:14:11 PM UTC-6, davidp wrote:       > Trump Isn’t Serious About the National Debt        > He joins Democrats in saying that any reform to Social Security would toss       granny off a cliff.        > By The Editorial Board, Jan. 19, 2024, Wall St. Journal        > MAGA Republicans claim to be worried about the country’s $34 trillion       debt, and this week the House Budget Committee advanced a bill to create a       bipartisan fiscal commission. Have they checked with Donald Trump?        >        > After winning the Iowa caucuses Monday, Trump replayed a golden oldie of a       campaign pledge: “We’re also going to pay off the national debt. It’s       about time.” He said the same thing in 2016, before he added about $8       trillion to the tab. Roughly        half of that was Covid relief, so perhaps voters grade him on a curve. Less       forgivable is that he’s now playing for the Democrats on entitlements.        >        > “Americans were promised a secure retirement. Nikki Haley’s plan ends       that,” says the grim narrator of a Trump ad playing in New Hampshire. A new       radio spot adds: “Year after year, you paid into Social Security. Now Nikki       Haley wants to keep        you from collecting what’s yours.” The Trump campaign alleges Haley would       cut benefits “for 82 percent of Americans.”        >        > This is dishonest. Social Security is running out of money, and doing       nothing will result in a 23% cut to benefits within a decade. The retirement       trust fund, according to the latest report, will be depleted in 2033, at which       point the incoming cash “       will be sufficient to pay 77% of scheduled benefits.” Does Trump have any       plan to prevent this outcome in only 9 years? Nope.        >        > Haley hasn’t issued a detailed proposal, but what she says doesn’t fit       Trump’s narrative. “I will protect those receiving Social Security and       Medicare—that’s a promise,” she said last fall. “We’ll keep these       programs the same for        anyone who’s in their 40s, 50s, 60s, or older, period.”        >        > Then she added that she would “limit benefits on the wealthy” and       “raise the retirement age only for younger people who are just entering the       system. Americans are living 15 years longer than they were in the ’30s. If       we don’t get out of this        20th-century mindset, Social Security and Medicare won’t survive.”        >        > Whatever Trump might say about getting the debt under control, it won’t       happen without changes to these programs. Social Security was 19% of total       federal outlays in 2022. Medicare was 12% and Medicaid 9%. The category of       “other means tested        entitlements” was another 10%. Add those up, and they’re half of federal       spending. As social programs keep growing, they crowd out everything that’s       counted as “discretionary,” including national defense, which was 12%.        >        > This problem will get worse. By the year 2053, Social Security outlays will       climb to 6.2% of GDP from 4.8%, the Congressional Budget Office estimates.       Medicare will go to 5.5% from 2.8%. “Rising health care costs per person and       the aging of the        population are the main reasons for the sharp increase in projected spending       on the major health care programs,” CBO dryly notes. Ditto for Social       Security.        >        > Republicans used to grasp this reality, and Democrats hammered them as       heartless while pretending not to understand math. Recall the Medicare attack       ad in which a doppelgänger of Rep. Paul Ryan pushed a grandma in a wheelchair       off a cliff.        >        > Today the putative leader of the Republican Party is taking the same line       against Haley. She’s the one candidate in 2024 who is honest about what’s       driving the debt, and Mr. Trump is trashing her for it. Ron DeSantis has       switched jerseys on this        issue as well. He has been arguing that because life expectancy has dipped       slightly amid Covid and the opioid epidemic, the U.S. can’t possibly adjust       Social Security to account for the enormous gains in health and longevity       since the 30s.        >        > It’s dizzying. House Republicans are at one another’s throats over       modest bills to keep the government running, and some of the rabble rousers       are now debating whether to knife their second Speaker in three months. Yet       Trump is running a        presidential campaign all but promising America a future as a broke, weak       welfare state, and none of the MAGA debt agonists object. Incoherence, thy       name is Trump’s Republican Party.                      there is only one thing, and one thing only that is the national debt, its the       trade deficit. social security is self funded, and does not add one cent to       any debt, so QUITE LYING YOU SACK OF S##T.              there is no such things as the budget deficit.                     >        > https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-social-security-nati       nal-debt-republicans-nikki-haley-7c468ff2              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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