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   Message 344,931 of 345,379   
   Scout to Mitchell Holman   
   Re: U.S. Debt on Pace to Top $56 Trillio   
   11 Jul 24 14:26:06   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns   
   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message   
   news:XnsB1A4834C779F1629555@185.151.15.160...   
   > "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\""  wrote in   
   > news:eqsa8j1v2qkd66hkl7bv4chog4pnjf4ri2@4ax.com:   
   >   
   >> If this is a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!   
   >>   
   >>>HAW HAW HAW HAW !!!!  A Republican complaining about debt!  It is to   
   >>>laugh!   
   >>>   
   >>>When a President leaves office with a destroyed economy and hundreds   
   >>>of billions in new spending commitments, the tap can't simply be   
   >>>turned off.   
   >>>   
   >>>It took Obama eight years to work the deficit down from a trillion and   
   >>>a half to half a trillion after the catastrophe of the Bush   
   >>>Presidency.  Otoh, it took Bush only one year to turn a Democrat's   
   >>>surplus into deficit and just seven more to convert that surplus into   
   >>>a deficit 150% of what the TOTAL NATIONAL DEBT was when Reagan was   
   >>>sworn in.  Trump turned Obama's half trillion deficit into $8B of new   
   >>>debt in only four years.   
   >>>   
   >>>And you're complaining that Biden isn't fixing the Republicans' screw   
   >>>up fast enough?   
   >>>   
   >>>HAW HAW HAW HAW !!!!   
   >>   
   >> Neither party has a particularly good record of controlling spending.   
   >> When one party demands that spending be cut, they mean to cut the   
   >> other party's pet projects, but not theirs!  Every administration   
   >> since 1980 has run a deficit.  Some point to Clinton who had a   
   >> balanced budget in 1999 and 2000, but he was just economically lucky.   
   >>   
   >> The problem isn't the Democrats or the Republicans... the problem is   
   >> that Americans are fat and lazy.  We're used to living spending more   
   >> than we produce in actual wages... so we demand pay raises.  *This* is   
   >> the source of inflation, not the president!   
   >>   
   >> Hard times are coming soon... in Vietnam, we used to say: "Eat your   
   >> peaches." when we expected the shit to hit the fan. (We'd save our   
   >> peaches because they were the best part, but we didn't want to die not   
   >> having eaten them.)  Get out of personal debt, and get fit: physically   
   >> and financially.  The political far right is ascendent across the   
   >> political and geographic spectrum, and, historically, global war has   
   >> usually followed political instability.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   >     Clinton raised taxes, balanced the   
   > budget and the economy boomed. In fact   
   > his budgets would have paid down the   
   > national debt if they had been allowed   
   > to continue. But Bush deliberataly   
   > killed the budget surplus because he   
   > thought it was PROBLEM. Tax cuts were   
   > more important.   
      
   Yep, I have to agree.   
      
   > "You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are   
   > too high and government is charging more than it needs."   
   > Bush Address to Congress, Feb 2001   
      
   Whereas a mounting national debt is like hanging a mill stone around the   
   neck of someone swimming and then acting surprised they can't swim nearly as   
   well.   
      
   In 2023 we spend $658 Billion dollars just for interest on the National   
   Debt.   
      
   That $658 Billion dollars bought us nothing.. but another year of time to   
   carry the debt. In 2024 they are projecting $982 Billion in interest.   
      
   Last time I checked it would take 100% of the federal revenue for 7.5 years   
   to pay off the debt we have.   
      
   Over 30 years we could pay it off using 48% of the budget and pay about as   
   much as we owe in interest.  For 100 years. that works out to be 37.7% of   
   the governments revenue. and you would pay about 4.5 times as much as you   
   owed in interest.   
      
   Now... while we aren't broke.. Buying a new car each year and failing to   
   even pay the interest no longer seems to be an option. If we continue as we   
   are National Bankruptcy isn't a question of if.. but only when.   
   We need to cut the federal budget in half as a start.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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