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"Lee" wrote in message
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> Scout wrote:
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>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> news:XnsB19F8361BA6D6629555@185.151.15.190... >"Scout"
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>> >>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> > > news:XnsB19ED3A7A17DF629555@185.151.15.190...
>> >>>"Scout" wrote in
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>> >>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> > > > > news:XnsB19E83E9B41B1629555@185.151.15.160...
>> >>>>>"Scout" wrote in
>> > > > > > news:v5jpje$2omg6$9@dont-email.me:
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>> >>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> > > > > > > news:XnsB19DD22BB3734629555@185.151.15.190...
>> >>>>>>>"Scout" wrote in
>> > > > > > > > news:v5hp6h$29muh$4@dont-email.me:
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>> >>>>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > > news:XnsB19654CAE594D629555@185.151.15.160...
>> >>>>>>>>>Thank Joe Biden Democrats wrote in
>> > > > > > > > > > news:5af043f071b0068d25570d415a641a89@dizum.com:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > The United States is on a pace to add trillions
>> > > > > > > > > > > of dollars to its national debt over the next
>> > > > > > > > > > > decade, borrowing money more quickly than
>> > > > > > > > > > > previously expected, at a time when big
>> > > > > > > > > > > legislative fights loom over taxes and spending.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > The Congressional Budget Office said on Tuesday
>> > > > > > > > > > > that the U.S. national debt is poised to top $56
>> > > > > > > > > > > trillion by 2034, as rising spending and interest
>> > > > > > > > > > > expenses outpace tax revenues. The mounting costs
>> > > > > > > > > > > of Social Security and Medicare continue to weigh
>> > > > > > > > > > > on the nation's finances, along with rising
>> > > > > > > > > > > interest rates, which have made it more costly
>> > > > > > > > > > > for the federal government to borrow huge sums of
>> > > > > > > > > > > money.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > As a result, the United States is expected to
>> > > > > > > > > > > continue running large budget deficits, which are
>> > > > > > > > > > > the gap between what America spends and what it
>> > > > > > > > > > > receives through taxes and other revenue. The
>> > > > > > > > > > > budget deficit in 2024 is projected to be $1.9
>> > > > > > > > > > > trillion, up from a forecast earlier this year of
>> > > > > > > > > > > $1.6 trillion. Over the next 10 years, the annual
>> > > > > > > > > > > deficit is projected to swell to $2.9 trillion.
>> > > > > > > > > > > As a share of the economy, debt held by the
>> > > > > > > > > > > public in 2034 will be 122 percent of gross
>> > > > > > > > > > > domestic product, up from 99 percent in 2024.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> >>>>>>>>> And the cure for that is more tax cuts,
>> > > > > > > > > > more borrowing, and less enforcement of tax
>> > > > > > > > > > laws. Right.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Well.... we've tried raising taxes, more borrowing
>> > > > > > > > > and strong enforcement of the tax laws.. and all it's
>> > > > > > > > > gotten us is larger debt.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Here's an idea... if politicians spend more than 95%
>> > > > > > > > > of the revenue.. (remaining 5% to pay down national
>> > > > > > > > > debt) they can't hold public office.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> >>>>>>> And if a politician doesn't
>> > > > > > > > abide by your litmus test what
>> > > > > > > > then? Impeach them? Using what
>> > > > > > > > "high crime or misdemeanor"?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Well, whether they remain in office could be decided by a
>> > > > > > > vote in their district.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> So a recall election every time
>> > > > > > a Congressman votes for a spending
>> > > > > > bill?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If it's over budget.. sure.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >>> So every Tuesday all businesses
>> > > > will have to close so voters can go
>> > > > vote on a spending bill?
>> > >
>> > > If the federal government goes into the red every Tuesday.. yea.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > That is insane.
>>
>> Yes, deficit spending is insane.
>>
>> >
>> > And if no voters show up to vote
>> > on federal budget outlays what then?
>>
>> Then it's a no confidence vote and those who voted for the extra
>> spending are removed from office.
>
>
> 1) There is no such thing as a
> "no-confidence" vote in American
> politics.
And maybe it's past time to consider it.
>
> 2) Would carry out this removal
> and who would appoint the replacement?
The state legislature would carry out the removal. Immediate replacement
could be by either the state legislature, or the 2nd place finisher in the
election. Then they could either finish our the term or a new election for a
permanent replacement could be held 60-90 days later.
> 3) Has it occured you that there
> are national emergencies that require
> deficit spending?
Yes, and if it's truly an emergency then getting a vote of confidence should
be no issue. Of course, if they built up a fund for emergencies over time,
then they could tap those funds without having to worry about such a vote.
Though it could be an item that could be decided at the next general
election for that state.
>> > > Bet by the end of the month, there would be some changes in
>> > > representation and spending.....
>> >
>> >
>> > Politicians could care less what the
>> > voters think about issues.
>>
>> Which is EXACTLY the problem, and what needs to be fixed.
>>
>> Thank you for your admission that there needs to be a means to
>> directly and immediately hole politicians accountable.
>
>
> Some politicians need to
> be holed, true enough.....
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