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   useapen to All   
   From Government Healthcare to Graveyards   
   10 Jul 25 06:50:46   
   
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   I will now depart from normal C&C practice, and make a calculated leap of   
   speculation with potentially vast implications. But recent evidence   
   demands it. Yesterday, ZeroHedge ran a story headlined, “Centene Crashes   
   Most On Record, Sparks Selloff In Managed Care Stocks.” This is not good   
   news. It could be awful.   
      
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   The managed care industry got carpet-bombed yesterday, after Centene   
   Corporation, one of the largest health insurers in the U.S., suffered the   
   worst single-day stock drop in its history—crashing up to 40% after   
   yanking its 2025 guidance. The crash was caused by devastating new   
   actuarial data showing that Centene’s Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)   
   enrollees are sicker, costlier, and fewer than expected, especially in 22   
   states where Centene holds significant market share.   
      
   The company now faces an unexpected $1.8 billion hit to its 2025 earnings,   
   triggering immediate Wall Street downgrades and a sector-wide investor   
   panic. UnitedHealth had already slashed its forecast weeks earlier and   
   replaced its CEO. Now, analysts warn that the Obamacare risk pool is   
   unraveling, with spiking Medicaid costs and mispriced premiums dragging   
   down the entire industry. Bluntly, insurers had bet on healthy growth— but   
   have hemorrhaging patients instead.   
      
   Centene Corporation is one of the largest health insurance providers in   
   the United States, specializing in government-sponsored programs like   
   Medicaid, Medicare Advantage, and Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace   
   plans. Headquartered in St. Louis, Centene serves over 28 million members   
   (about a tenth of the entire country), primarily low-income and vulnerable   
   populations. Its rapid rise came from aggressively expanding into public   
   health contracts across dozens of states, making it a bellwether for the   
   broader managed care industry. In short, Centene is a key pillar of the   
   federalized U.S. healthcare safety net.   
      
   But the company’s explanations made the hair on the back of my neck stand   
   up. They cited two “unexpected” developments. First, morbidity (sickness   
   and permanent disability) is rocketing upwards. Seon, at the same time,   
   their insured pools are shriveling. The loss of enrollees is, presumably,   
   because of excess death. Why else would very sick people drop off free or   
   heavily subsidized insurance rolls?   
      
   Centene’s clients are not typical MAHA folks who might be fleeing ACA for   
   non-traditional healthcare. They are folks captured by government   
   healthcare.   
      
   Centene’s customers are possibly the most heavily jab-propagandized   
   populations on planet Earth. Its core customer base includes Medicaid   
   recipients, ACA exchange enrollees, and Medicare Advantage members. I.e.,   
   seniors and low-income, working-age folks. These are precisely the   
   populations that faced the most aggressive vaccine outreach, were most   
   subject to institutional mandates and incentives, and had the fewest   
   options to resist or opt out.   
      
   Medicaid recipients were often required or heavily pressured to get   
   vaccinated in order to keep jobs, access care, or participate in other   
   public programs. ACA ‘marketplace’ enrollees, many of whom fall into the   
   working-poor category, were heavily targeted by state-level campaigns. And   
   Medicare Advantage members —primarily older adults— were at the front of   
   the vaccine rollout line, with near-total uptake among those over 65.   
      
   If a long-term adverse event signal were associated with mass vaccination,   
   Centene’s risk pool would necessarily be disproportionately exposed to   
   that signal. Consider that with rapidly rising morbidity, shrinking   
   enrollment, and a $1.8B actuarial shock —i.e., future forecasts of the   
   same or worse— the implications become uncomfortably plausible.   
      
   The fact that Centene had to suddenly withdraw guidance —not revise, not   
   adjust, but yank it entirely— and instead report a devastating $1.8   
   billion projected hole, based on new data from its auditors, suggests the   
   trend was recent and sharp, not gradual. The scope or scale was   
   unexpected— possibly exponential. Their previous assumptions were suddenly   
   falsified in an astonishingly short timeframe.   
      
   That means the underlying risk landscape shifted materially, and fast.   
      
   But even that unsettling news wasn’t what turned my blood to icy sludge.   
   It was another dot that snapped right into place. On June 29th, I ran a   
   different story, at that time describing a happy DOGE success story. The   
   story was about the federal government’s new plan to claw back 50% of   
   fraudulent Social Security overpayments, a welcome development. Here’s the   
   thing: the clawbacks hadn’t started yet. But in my optimism, I decorated   
   the story with this graph, which showed the largest drop-off in Social   
   Security payments in history, starting this year:   
      
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   So, this morning, as I considered Centene’s disaster story, my lawyer’s   
   brain automatically clicked back to that surprising Social Security graph.   
   Now, don’t get me wrong. It absolutely could be improved waste, fraud, and   
   abuse tracking, as I’d supposed on June 29th. But … I was just guessing.   
   The Administration hasn’t taken any victory laps claiming that   
   historically reduced Social Security payments were the fruits of DOGE   
   labor. Not officially or even unofficially. I was just trying to connect   
   some dots.   
      
   But … what if there’s another explanation? What if the historic downward   
   spike in Social Security payouts is because … there are suddenly a lot   
   fewer seniors?   
      
   I don’t want to make these kinds of connections. But after years of   
   litigation training, I can’t help it. The Social Security chart is   
   evidence that reinforces the Centene bombshell— a massive, actuarially   
   driven revelation of sudden and unexpectedly high morbidity and shrinking   
   insured populations in Medicaid and the ACA exchanges. Two entirely   
   separate systems. Two different populations. One unmistakable pattern:   
   rapidly shrinking rolls of government-dependent individuals, precisely as   
   healthcare costs suddenly explode.   
      
   If large numbers of Centene’s clients are disappearing, and Social   
   Security payouts are plummeting simultaneously, it’s not just plausible,   
   it’s even likely that we’re seeing the same people vanish from two systems   
      
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