XPost: alt.politics.socialism, soc.culture.jewish   
   From: Josjoha@market.socialism.nl   
      
   It is assumed the reader understands why the land must be distributed as   
   a free right to all. If you do not understand this yet, please just ask   
   a question and we can get into that later for those who are still behind   
   in their studies. (Behind, because humanity is now so advanced that we   
   can absolutely not afford anymore an ill conceived stone age way of   
   living with modern technology. Undersatnding this should be general   
   knowledge and practice throughout humanity, coupled with a well   
   developed democratic culture both in the State and in business.)   
      
   We assume here the model proposed on: market.socialism.nl, where the   
   land is zoned for different activities, and rights are established for   
   all citizens in each zone. The right can be swap traded, and also be   
   traded with a free buffer of about 10%. There is an effort by the State   
   to look into keeping the value of the rights within each zone more or   
   less the same.   
      
   A question may arise about what to do with land set aside for smaller   
   area activities, where buildings have been established by the user of the   
   land (distributive owner). How do these buildings function in the free   
   and equal distribution system. The building may add value to the land,   
   or in some cases diminish the value of the land if the building needs   
   to be removed if nobody want that land with that building. It is a   
   matter of time before people start building on their land, which is   
   zoned for allowing such activities. Think of industry zones near or   
   inside villages and cities, or even strips along certain streets, or   
   even single plots scattered throughout.   
      
   These buildings are in areas zoned for smaller areas compared to farming   
   or ranching such as workshops, factories, warehousing, hospitality   
   services, repair services, trading, and so on (butchers, bakeries,   
   hair cutting, shoe sales, clothing repair, lawyers, schools, .......).   
   If someone who wishes to start a bicycle repair shop sees their barren   
   plot, it is likely not going to take long before there is at least a   
   wooden shed like structure build there, to start off the business. If   
   the business goes well and the desire exists, the building could   
   expanded and made of better quality materials. Over the decades, a   
   substantial value maybe created by the user which can not be separated   
   from the land (although it can be destroyed).   
      
   This may not be a difficult problem, but even if it isn't, I would first   
   like to ask the reader to find an answer themselves. PLease stop   
   reading, and find an answer which may work yourself. If you cannot even   
   do that, if you cannot solve problems in the system yourself or have at   
   least some willingness to invest your time into such a matter, then just   
   forget about everything already. Go fight your wars and when you are   
   back in the Stone Age - if you get that far - then you don't have to   
   worry about fixed buildings on the ground anymore. The problem solved   
   itself for you. No longer any complaining about a harsh life from you   
   either, because you showed no willingness to make a success out of   
   everything that has happened since humans started farming and using the   
   land in a settled way. If the bear doesn't hunt, he goes hungry. If you   
   don't want to solve some basic problems about your society, you go back   
   to the Stone Age (if you are lucky). Right ? Isn't that fair ?¹   
      
      
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   One answer, or perhaps the logical answer, I would propose is quite   
   simple: it makes no difference. If you have a building on your land, and   
   you have no longer a willingness to continue, then you can simply offer   
   your land up for a swap trade. You can try to get for this swap trade,   
   as much as you want. If there is a buyer, then there is your return for   
   the hard work you put into the building. If nobody wants your building   
   and you give up on asking anything for it, you can still try to see if   
   it passes for nothing. This at least saves you the trouble of having to   
   tear down a building whose only use may be to be torn down (think of a   
   structure for which the repair costs are higher than tearing it down and   
   building a new building).   
      
   If nobody even wants it for free, then you can try to give it back to   
   the free buffer of the State (the State is obviously not a private   
   person, but rather it is the common interest, or should be). Naturally   
   the State may need to come and inspect what you have done to your land.   
   Has the land been maintained at its original value, or has it been so   
   badly damaged and contaminated with chemicals that it has to be cleaned   
   up first before it can be given to another person.   
      
   It makes sense that the user/owner who would like to give the land back   
   to the buffer or whomever it would take, needs to pay for returning the   
   land into a usable state, if he has damaged the land. If a building is   
   on the land which obviously needs to be torn down, then this may have to   
   happen on the cost (or effort) of that land user (distributive owner).   
   There is a certain decision moment here, where the State will have to   
   decide what to do with this land if it comes back into the buffer for   
   free distribution.   
      
   I guess it is even conceivable that the State might take over a building   
   (or other structure) which seems still useful for a certain amount of   
   money, in the hope of someone willing to take that land later for that   
   amount of money (or another amount). If for example it seems quite   
   certain that a building on distributive land will find a buyer later,   
   but the distributive owner has an urgent need to swap his (industry)   
   land to somewhere else (maybe he moved, or migrated, or died, etc), you   
   could decide to pay a reasonable amount for the structure, and then put   
   it into the distribituve buffer with a price to it.   
      
   This may open up a number of problems however, because now the State may   
   start to be in the business of buying and selling buildings. What if the   
   State tries to make a profit ? This may not be a significant problem,   
   because the profit is supposed to go into the common interest budget.   
      
   What happens when all the zoned plots have buildings on them, and they   
   are all put out for a certain price. This would mean that anyone who has   
   a plot of land in an industry zone has a building on it that they do not   
   want to give away for free, and that all the land in the free buffer   
   also has buildings on it.   
      
   Another issue may be that the person who wants land in their industry   
   buffer - which is their free and equal right - doesn't even want a   
   building on there at all. In such a case, the person who claims their   
   right to land - free and equal - could choose whatever land is in   
      
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