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|    Jos Boersema to All    |
|    Free & equal land distribution: building    |
|    24 Dec 25 09:46:49    |
      [continued from previous message]              the free buffer. He then gets the land with the building for free,       or can even ask the building to be torn down first to get access to       a pristine plot of land. This concerns the areas in the free buffer,       but not the land which is still used by "distributive owners" (or those       the distributive owner has rented it to, etc).              This condition of building saturation may not be an unusual condition in       the end, because of the likelihood of people building something on their       industry zone plots.              In other words ... it seems that buildings on these plots make no       difference to the system. There can be a functioning swap market for       land ownership, with or without buildings, the people can arrive at       their prices in this market on their own. The communication with the       free buffer of these lands can also remain the same, where the building       can be regarded as an added or substracted value for that land,       resulting in an adjustment. This adjustment can be to the distributive       owner, either positive or negative (money/effort).              There is also the adjustment possibility of dividing a singular plot of       land into multiple plots, if the value of the land has increased       greatly. The value could have increased greatly if a high value building       has been put on that land, in such a way that the value could - for       example - more or less have doubled. Let's say that for example a       backward laying unappealing plot of land gained a high value larger       building, and due to the development of land in the area the traffic       around this building has increased greatly, as well as the quality of       the roads. These things may happen over time.              In this case two things have increased in value: the land (plus       buildings) itself, and the area around it has changed in such a way to       increase the value of that land. The former goes to the credit of the       one who build that building, the latter is a consequence of events       probably largely outside of their control (or let's assume that it is).              If this building was sold to the free buffer, and the value has become       so great that it is now estimated to be worth multiples of a single       industry land plot value, then you could think of making it so that this       is now two plots of zoned land. You could then have two businesses       in that single building, or two persons who do it together and who both       have their land there.              It seems that things can get a bit difficult at times, with how to       decide what is fair and good. On the other hand, there is the adjustment       of the market over it. If the State decided to divide this high value       building into 10 zoned plots and even for a price (assuming there are       also still free plots in the buffer), but there are only two persons who ever       come to take out a room, then it seems the State has overestimated the       value of this building. They may have to adjust the value down again,       because the market does not agree with their decision.              One can also imagine there would be court appeals over time, if it can       reasonably be shown that a plot of land with a building unded up much       less valuable than it was originally sold for from the free buffer.              There seems to be some tension here, with how the laws I have proposed       are written, which indicate that a person can always get any land from       the free buffer for free. Under such rules, the State may not sell       buildings for a price. These buildings, if they end up in the free       buffer, will always be for free.              Perhaps that is the best idea after all, because then the State remains       free from all the problems of selling (and the corruption that may come       with it, such as selling cheap to family members). The owner of the       building (distributive owner of that land/building), then just has to       try to sell it to another person. if that fails, then the value of the       building is assumed to be zero. Assuming the value is not well below       zero (needs to be torn down at cost), it can then simply be       re-distributed for free to whomever takes for free.              With a bit more thought, and perhaps an experiment or two, it may become       clearer what works best.              These are perhaps the two points of this article: how does land       distribution function when there are buildings on that land, and at       least as important: these are problems you can work on, and sometimes       you have an idea which may seem to work, but then when you rethink it or       try it you may have to adjust it. You need to start solving these       problems. Every person on Earth needs to start solving these problems.       Not do what most people usually do, which is:               * I don't care.        * I don' have the time.        * I don't have the energy.        * I can never make any impact anyway.        * I can never solve anything.        * I don't even see the problem (!!!)        * I am too busy satisfying my greed.        * I want to be rich and greedy and an abuser of people, I want slaves.        More justice and fairness makes that impossible.              Etc. Solve the problem, think it over, adjust experiment and adjust.              A last point is how urgent the situation is.              Why do we first need World War 3 (economic collapse, global nuclear war       etc), before people notice anything is wrong ? I guess everything is       impossible because too many people have anti-social tendencies. They       don't co-operate well with each other. Too much gossip, too little       listening & caring, too much ambition to get rich and have your children       run over the top of other children by making a big money making carreer,       too little thinking about everyone. These behaviors are like those of       animals or stone age bands and tribes trying to survive in a harsh and       violent world with primitive tools.              We don't have to defeat any animal anymore, we won. Humanity is superior       forever, based on creativity and work - not based on violence. Our       shovel is more powerful in the world, than our sword. It's the shovel       which extincts other animals, not so much the sword, isn't it ? Our       infrastructure is an increasingly overpowering element in the world.       That is production, creativity, co-operation - not violence. Violence is       a big weakness in humanity now. It diminishes our chances of survival       now, even though in the stone age it may have had its purpose (just like       with animals, to fight over mating rights to get strong and fighting       fit offspring to fight it out with bears and swines). Even the violence       itself is only powerful now, because of the application of the peace of:       working together to make new weapons creatively. You are nothing "on the       battle field" if you train your body all day your whole life, against       someone who has a normal life and then does nothing more than buy a gun.       The gun is made out of peace: co-operation, listening to each other,       working together efficiently, productively, perhaps even friedly.              The sheep species makes their horns big & strong by butting them against       each other, and selecting for mating the winner ram (I imagine). If you       have guys fighting over a girl and the one on the ground looses the       girl, you are not going to end up with a strong army. You are going to       end up with a bunch of mindless knuckleheads who probably can barely       follow orders and with limited ability to even operate the best weapons,       let alone create them. Two professors fighting over a girl in the       workshop and the winner getting the honor of making the weapon design is       probably not making the best weapons, compared to another Nation where       the two professors are decent people who listen to each other honestly       and with care.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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