XPost: can.politics
From: coldasfire@hades.com
Can you show evidence that no one has died from MJ, mushroom or LSD? I
don't think you can. I'm not saying your lying I'm just saying can't prove
your hypothesis. All drugs have some risk to them. People die from drugs
everyday not just by overdosing but by misapplication or from allergies and
fro other reasons too.
If drugs were monitored as to purity and strength there would be a lot less
deaths from OD-ing. On the other hand if someone wants to take the risk and
they are only likely to kill themselves why should I get all excited if they
do? So you're not a dogmatic anti-drug crusader but your logic isn't
logical.
Why are drugs illegal in the first place? There has to be some reason which
if examined closely will be traced right back to some economic issue.
"bleeargh" wrote in message
news:FLZQe.9$Sp2.111@news2.mts.net...
> Ivan said that there was only 3 drugs that were dangerous, I was merely
> stating that coke and heroin ARE dangerous. No one has ever died from a
> weed, mushroom or LSD overdose, because you can't OD on those. Therefore,
> those drugs are inherently less dangerous than others. Seems like fine
logic
> to me. I even stated that I supported the legaliztion of most drugs. So
> where you get that I'm some dogmatic anti-drug crusader is beyond me. I've
> been known to dabble in some illicit substances from time to time, so it
> would be pretty hypocritical of me to denounce them.
>
> "notritenoteri" wrote in message
> news:d_KQe.486$RN.2649@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
> > What logic! Make heroin etc illegal simply because an overdose can kill
> > you? So can an overdose of H2O you going to ban swimming and bathing.
Been
> > watching Reefer madness again have we? HOw do you know ALL drugs cause
> > harm?
> > YOu a pharmacoligist or just another dogmatic individual whose been
> > brainwashed?
> > "bleeargh" wrote in message
> > news:RxKQe.8$Sp2.87@news2.mts.net...
> >> "Ivan Gowch" wrote in message
> >> news:l8q6h1pkvaaldinbtjt63t74g4b2r00jqa@4ax.com...
> >> > newfysnapshot wrote:
> >> > ==>> Drugs are bad for the body as well as for our children and for
> >> > society in
> >> > ==>> general.
> >> >
> >> > Bullshit.
> >> >
> >> > Since you care so much about society's welfare,
> >> > why are you not attacking the drug that's responsible
> >> > for more grief and hardship than all the illegal
> >> > substances put together -- alcohol?
> >> >
> >> > It's alcohol that's implicated in the vast majority of
> >> > drug-related accidents, crime, child-abuse, economic
> >> > harm due to lost production, property damage,
> >> > destroyed lives.
> >> >
> >> > The ONLY problem associated with illegal mood-altering
> >> > substances is that they're illegal, not that they're
> >> > harmful in and of themselves.
> >> >
> >> > Even the king of illegal drugs, heroin, presents
> >> > no particular health or law-enforcement problem,
> >> > except that its illegality makes it expensive, meaning
> >> > that addicts must engage in crime to get enough money
> >> > to feed their habits. A heroin addict lucky enough to
> >> > be rich -- and there are such -- does not rob banks or
> >> > mug old ladies or go insane. He takes his "medicine,"
> >> > nods off and harms no one except, perhaps,
> >> > himself, if he allows his habit to rob him of ambition
> >> > or desire to be productive.
> >> >
> >> > It's the fact that some drugs are banned that makes
> >> > them so expensive that black markets have grown up to
> >> > supply users, and the vast profits to be made from
> >> > such trade that sparks the turf wars, gang killings
> >> > and collateral damage associated with them, as
> >> > well as corruption of public officials, the
> >> > overcrowding in our prisons, etc., etc.
> >> >
> >> > If all the prohibitions were removed today and
> >> > (almost) all drugs made available at the local
> >> > pharmacy, the prices would drop dramatically,
> >> > the criminal gangs that now thrive by supplying
> >> > them would vanish, the turf wars would end and
> >> > bullets would stop flying around suburban Toronto
> >> > neighbourhoods.
> >> >
> >> > Only three popular drugs are inherently dangerous
> >> > to those who use them -- methamphetamine and
> >> > PCP -- both of which are highly deleterious to the
> >> > brain and can, in fact, make people crazy -- and, of
> >> > course, alcohol.
> >> >
> >> > This cannot be said of cannabis, cocaine, heroin or
> >> > any of the "psychedelics" such as LSD, mescaline,
> >> > psilocybin ("magic mushrooms") or ecstasy. Use of
> >> > these does not make people insane, or turn to crime
> >> > or kill their families.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm generally for legalization of most drugs and I agree that alcohol
is
> > the
> >> biggest problem drug, but I would definately put coke and heroin on the
> > list
> >> of inherently dangerous drugs for the simple fact that an overdose can
> > kill
> >> you. Even the most hardened junkie can accidently overdose, or the
novice
> >> who has no idea how much they are taking. Plus all drugs cause some
kind
> > of
> >> bodily harm, alcohol destroys the liver, weed damages the lungs, coke
can
> >> cause heart damage and nasal passage damage, etc. So while alcohol is
by
> > far
> >> the drug with the worst effects on society, the use of any of them
should
> > be
> >> discouraged.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > The only question remaining is whether we have the
> >> > courage to demand that our legislators act rationally
> >> > and wipe from the books laws that are not only
> >> > unenforceable, but counter-productive.
> >>
> >> Our current drug laws are certainly a waste of resources.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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