XPost: can.politics
From: freedom....,./.,,,...@7676767.amc.acf.am....nec
"notritenoteri" wrote in message
news:wo_Qe.549$RN.3266@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
> Can you show evidence that no one has died from MJ, mushroom
In Canada there have been cases of death caused by mushrooms.
or LSD? I
> don't think you can. I'm not saying your lying I'm just saying can't prove
> your hypothesis. All drugs have some risk to them. People die from drugs
> everyday not just by overdosing but by misapplication or from allergies
and
> fro other reasons too.
> If drugs were monitored as to purity and strength there would be a lot
less
> deaths from OD-ing. On the other hand if someone wants to take the risk
and
> they are only likely to kill themselves why should I get all excited if
they
> do? So you're not a dogmatic anti-drug crusader but your logic isn't
> logical.
> Why are drugs illegal in the first place? There has to be some reason
which
> if examined closely will be traced right back to some economic issue.
>
> "bleeargh" wrote in message
> news:FLZQe.9$Sp2.111@news2.mts.net...
> > Ivan said that there was only 3 drugs that were dangerous, I was merely
> > stating that coke and heroin ARE dangerous. No one has ever died from a
> > weed, mushroom or LSD overdose, because you can't OD on those.
Therefore,
> > those drugs are inherently less dangerous than others. Seems like fine
> logic
> > to me. I even stated that I supported the legaliztion of most drugs. So
> > where you get that I'm some dogmatic anti-drug crusader is beyond me.
I've
> > been known to dabble in some illicit substances from time to time, so it
> > would be pretty hypocritical of me to denounce them.
> >
> > "notritenoteri" wrote in message
> > news:d_KQe.486$RN.2649@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
> > > What logic! Make heroin etc illegal simply because an overdose can
kill
> > > you? So can an overdose of H2O you going to ban swimming and bathing.
> Been
> > > watching Reefer madness again have we? HOw do you know ALL drugs cause
> > > harm?
> > > YOu a pharmacoligist or just another dogmatic individual whose been
> > > brainwashed?
> > > "bleeargh" wrote in message
> > > news:RxKQe.8$Sp2.87@news2.mts.net...
> > >> "Ivan Gowch" wrote in message
> > >> news:l8q6h1pkvaaldinbtjt63t74g4b2r00jqa@4ax.com...
> > >> > newfysnapshot wrote:
> > >> > ==>> Drugs are bad for the body as well as for our children and for
> > >> > society in
> > >> > ==>> general.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bullshit.
> > >> >
> > >> > Since you care so much about society's welfare,
> > >> > why are you not attacking the drug that's responsible
> > >> > for more grief and hardship than all the illegal
> > >> > substances put together -- alcohol?
> > >> >
> > >> > It's alcohol that's implicated in the vast majority of
> > >> > drug-related accidents, crime, child-abuse, economic
> > >> > harm due to lost production, property damage,
> > >> > destroyed lives.
> > >> >
> > >> > The ONLY problem associated with illegal mood-altering
> > >> > substances is that they're illegal, not that they're
> > >> > harmful in and of themselves.
> > >> >
> > >> > Even the king of illegal drugs, heroin, presents
> > >> > no particular health or law-enforcement problem,
> > >> > except that its illegality makes it expensive, meaning
> > >> > that addicts must engage in crime to get enough money
> > >> > to feed their habits. A heroin addict lucky enough to
> > >> > be rich -- and there are such -- does not rob banks or
> > >> > mug old ladies or go insane. He takes his "medicine,"
> > >> > nods off and harms no one except, perhaps,
> > >> > himself, if he allows his habit to rob him of ambition
> > >> > or desire to be productive.
> > >> >
> > >> > It's the fact that some drugs are banned that makes
> > >> > them so expensive that black markets have grown up to
> > >> > supply users, and the vast profits to be made from
> > >> > such trade that sparks the turf wars, gang killings
> > >> > and collateral damage associated with them, as
> > >> > well as corruption of public officials, the
> > >> > overcrowding in our prisons, etc., etc.
> > >> >
> > >> > If all the prohibitions were removed today and
> > >> > (almost) all drugs made available at the local
> > >> > pharmacy, the prices would drop dramatically,
> > >> > the criminal gangs that now thrive by supplying
> > >> > them would vanish, the turf wars would end and
> > >> > bullets would stop flying around suburban Toronto
> > >> > neighbourhoods.
> > >> >
> > >> > Only three popular drugs are inherently dangerous
> > >> > to those who use them -- methamphetamine and
> > >> > PCP -- both of which are highly deleterious to the
> > >> > brain and can, in fact, make people crazy -- and, of
> > >> > course, alcohol.
> > >> >
> > >> > This cannot be said of cannabis, cocaine, heroin or
> > >> > any of the "psychedelics" such as LSD, mescaline,
> > >> > psilocybin ("magic mushrooms") or ecstasy. Use of
> > >> > these does not make people insane, or turn to crime
> > >> > or kill their families.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I'm generally for legalization of most drugs and I agree that alcohol
> is
> > > the
> > >> biggest problem drug, but I would definately put coke and heroin on
the
> > > list
> > >> of inherently dangerous drugs for the simple fact that an overdose
can
> > > kill
> > >> you. Even the most hardened junkie can accidently overdose, or the
> novice
> > >> who has no idea how much they are taking. Plus all drugs cause some
> kind
> > > of
> > >> bodily harm, alcohol destroys the liver, weed damages the lungs, coke
> can
> > >> cause heart damage and nasal passage damage, etc. So while alcohol is
> by
> > > far
> > >> the drug with the worst effects on society, the use of any of them
> should
> > > be
> > >> discouraged.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > The only question remaining is whether we have the
> > >> > courage to demand that our legislators act rationally
> > >> > and wipe from the books laws that are not only
> > >> > unenforceable, but counter-productive.
> > >>
> > >> Our current drug laws are certainly a waste of resources.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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