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   XPost: soc.culture.usa   
   From: bod@house-of-god.com   
      
   Ivan Gowch wrote:   
   > 		Does anyone else appreciate the irony of   
   > 		a coke-sniffing, alcoholic, serial-drunk-driving   
   > 		cocksucker of a president demanding that   
   > 		all schools make their students piss into   
   > 		bottles to see if they've been smoking   
   > 		weed?   
   >   
   > 		(Is irony still legal in the United Snakes?)   
   >   
   > 		It's also instructive to note the rank dishonesty   
   > 		of lumping in marijuana -- which is, of course,   
   > 		harmless and beneficial -- with "dangerous"   
   > 		substances like methamphetamine.   
   >   
   > 		But that statament is not in quotes, so that   
   > 		lie may well be the work of the Associated Press,   
   > 		which has increasingly acted as a Fox News-type   
   > 		shill for the criminal Bush administration.   
   >   
   > 		Fuck George W. Bush and fuck the AP.   
   > 				===   
   >   
   > W. House pushes more schools to drug-test students   
   >   
   >  By Andy Sullivan   
   >   
   > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Student athletes, musicians and others who   
   > participate in after school activities could increasingly be subject   
   > to random drug testing under a program promoted by the Bush   
   > administration.   
   >   
   > White House officials say drug testing is an effective way to keep   
   > students away from harmful substances like marijuana and crystal   
   > methamphetamine, and have held seminars across the country to promote   
   > the practice to local school officials.   
   >   
   > But some parents, educators and school officials call it a   
   > heavy-handed, ineffective way to discourage drug use that undermines   
   > trust and invades students' privacy.   
   >   
   > "Our money should be going toward educating young people, not putting   
   > them under these surveillance programs," said Jennifer Kern, a   
   > research associate at the Drug Policy Alliance, a non-profit group   
   > that has frequently criticized U.S. drug policy.   
   >   
   > Requiring students to produce a urine sample or hair sample for   
   > laboratory testing is a relatively recent tactic in the United States'   
   > decades-long "war on drugs," along with surveillance cameras and   
   > drug-sniffing dogs in school hallways.   
   >   
   > Adults in the military and many workplaces have long been subject to   
   > testing, but U.S. courts have ruled that public schools cannot impose   
   > random tests on an entire student body.   
   >   
   > The Supreme Court ruled in 1995 that schools can randomly test student   
   > athletes who are not suspected of drug use, and in 2002 ruled that all   
   > students who participate in voluntary activities, like cheerleading,   
   > band or debate, could be subjected to random tests.   
   >   
   > Since then, the Bush administration has spent $8 million to help   
   > schools pay for drug testing programs. The White House hopes to spend   
   > $15 million on drug-testing grants in the next fiscal year.   
   >   
   > Roughly 600 school districts now use drug tests out of about 15,000   
   > nationwide, according to officials from the White House Office of   
   > National Drug Control Policy.   
   >   
   > White House officials liken drug testing to programs that screen for   
   > tuberculosis or other diseases, and said students who test positive   
   > don't face criminal charges.   
   >   
   > The threat of a drug test also helps students resist peer pressure,   
   > said John Horton, an associate deputy director at the drug-control   
   > office.   
   >   
   > JUST SAY 'NO I CAN'T'   
   >   
   > "If I'm at a party and somebody says, 'Hey, do you want a hit of   
   > dope?' if I can look at that person and say, 'No, I can't,' then   
   > that's one more tool to say no," Horton said at a recent drug-testing   
   > conference in Virginia.   
   >   
   > Critics say the White House's emphasis on testing comes at the expense   
   > of counseling, treatment and education programs.   
   >   
   > Studies are mixed on the programs' effectiveness. Several individual   
   > schools reported declines in student drug use after implementing   
   > random testing, and a survey of 65 Indiana principals found drug use   
   > decreased at more than half of the schools where testing occurred.   
   >   
   > But a 2003 national survey of 76,000 students found no difference in   
   > drug use between schools that test students and those that don't.   
   >   
   > Illicit drug use remained steady among high school students between   
   > 1997 and 2004, with roughly half of high school seniors saying they   
   > had tried illicit drugs at some point, according to the National   
   > Institute on Drug Abuse.   
   >   
   > Several school administrators said the White House presentation had   
   > persuaded them of the benefits of random testing. But Baltimore social   
   > worker Karen Harris-Waites said many in her school district would   
   > probably see a mandatory program as too intrusive.   
   >   
   > That's happened in other school districts. Williamsburg, Virginia,   
   > decided to adopt a voluntary testing program earlier this month   
   > instead of a mandatory program.   
   >   
   > And Roanoke County, Virginia, rejected a mandatory program in 2004.   
   > "It just seems to be very intrusive," said Roanoke County parent Larry   
   > Morgan. "Just because they say you can do something doesn't mean it's   
   > good policy."   
      
   I would like to know. How many of the 100s of thousands of tests already   
   complete, and not counting the testing for drugs, been secondary tested   
   or genetically profiled ?   
      
   After all why would the government stand between a rock and the hard   
   place, on the assumption that teenagers might be smoking pot.   
      
      
   Its clear to me, that if i allow the government to infringe on the   
   rights of my child. While at the same time seeing my own diminish. If as   
   a loving father did not protect them and there rights.   
      
   I become the abuser of my children.   
      
   For knowingly allowing it to happen.   
      
   So I guess, the buck stops here.   
      
   With two options.....   
      
   1. I let the government abuse my children, and take away there rights,   
   and the rights of there children.   
      
   or   
      
   2. Face the fact that MY child may one day smoke a little pot.   
   and if he or she does. It has nothing to do with gw. unless he throws a   
   lid into the mix.   
      
   Heres my advice.   
      
   Keep your blood stained hands off of "my kids" !   
      
   Gen 1:29  And God said,Behold, I have given you "every" herb bearing   
   seed, which is upon the face of all the earth and every tree, in which   
   is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.   
      
   Whats he frightened of. Everyone waking up, tuning in, ripping the knob   
   off and dropping out ?   
      
   isn't that what he did ?   
      
   I,am laughing so hard. I pee`ed my pants.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)