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   XPost: soc.culture.usa   
   From: gospameffty@yahoo.com   
      
   "BoD"  wrote in message   
   news:ZdcUf.89775$zk4.78663@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...   
   > Ivan Gowch wrote:   
   >> Does anyone else appreciate the irony of   
   >> a coke-sniffing, alcoholic, serial-drunk-driving   
   >> cocksucker of a president demanding that   
   >> all schools make their students piss into   
   >> bottles to see if they've been smoking   
   >> weed?   
   >>   
   >> (Is irony still legal in the United Snakes?)   
   >>   
   >> It's also instructive to note the rank dishonesty   
   >> of lumping in marijuana -- which is, of course,   
   >> harmless and beneficial -- with "dangerous"   
   >> substances like methamphetamine.   
   >>   
   >> But that statament is not in quotes, so that   
   >> lie may well be the work of the Associated Press,   
   >> which has increasingly acted as a Fox News-type   
   >> shill for the criminal Bush administration.   
   >>   
   >> Fuck George W. Bush and fuck the AP.   
   >> ===   
   >>   
   >> W. House pushes more schools to drug-test students   
   >>   
   >>  By Andy Sullivan WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Student athletes, musicians and   
   >> others who   
   >> participate in after school activities could increasingly be subject   
   >> to random drug testing under a program promoted by the Bush   
   >> administration. White House officials say drug testing is an effective   
   >> way to keep   
   >> students away from harmful substances like marijuana and crystal   
   >> methamphetamine, and have held seminars across the country to promote   
   >> the practice to local school officials.   
   >>   
   >> But some parents, educators and school officials call it a   
   >> heavy-handed, ineffective way to discourage drug use that undermines   
   >> trust and invades students' privacy.   
   >>   
   >> "Our money should be going toward educating young people, not putting   
   >> them under these surveillance programs," said Jennifer Kern, a   
   >> research associate at the Drug Policy Alliance, a non-profit group   
   >> that has frequently criticized U.S. drug policy.   
   >>   
   >> Requiring students to produce a urine sample or hair sample for   
   >> laboratory testing is a relatively recent tactic in the United States'   
   >> decades-long "war on drugs," along with surveillance cameras and   
   >> drug-sniffing dogs in school hallways.   
   >>   
   >> Adults in the military and many workplaces have long been subject to   
   >> testing, but U.S. courts have ruled that public schools cannot impose   
   >> random tests on an entire student body.   
   >>   
   >> The Supreme Court ruled in 1995 that schools can randomly test student   
   >> athletes who are not suspected of drug use, and in 2002 ruled that all   
   >> students who participate in voluntary activities, like cheerleading,   
   >> band or debate, could be subjected to random tests.   
   >>   
   >> Since then, the Bush administration has spent $8 million to help   
   >> schools pay for drug testing programs. The White House hopes to spend   
   >> $15 million on drug-testing grants in the next fiscal year.   
   >>   
   >> Roughly 600 school districts now use drug tests out of about 15,000   
   >> nationwide, according to officials from the White House Office of   
   >> National Drug Control Policy.   
   >>   
   >> White House officials liken drug testing to programs that screen for   
   >> tuberculosis or other diseases, and said students who test positive   
   >> don't face criminal charges.   
   >>   
   >> The threat of a drug test also helps students resist peer pressure,   
   >> said John Horton, an associate deputy director at the drug-control   
   >> office.   
   >>   
   >> JUST SAY 'NO I CAN'T'   
   >>   
   >> "If I'm at a party and somebody says, 'Hey, do you want a hit of   
   >> dope?' if I can look at that person and say, 'No, I can't,' then   
   >> that's one more tool to say no," Horton said at a recent drug-testing   
   >> conference in Virginia.   
   >>   
   >> Critics say the White House's emphasis on testing comes at the expense   
   >> of counseling, treatment and education programs.   
   >>   
   >> Studies are mixed on the programs' effectiveness. Several individual   
   >> schools reported declines in student drug use after implementing   
   >> random testing, and a survey of 65 Indiana principals found drug use   
   >> decreased at more than half of the schools where testing occurred.   
   >>   
   >> But a 2003 national survey of 76,000 students found no difference in   
   >> drug use between schools that test students and those that don't.   
   >>   
   >> Illicit drug use remained steady among high school students between   
   >> 1997 and 2004, with roughly half of high school seniors saying they   
   >> had tried illicit drugs at some point, according to the National   
   >> Institute on Drug Abuse.   
   >>   
   >> Several school administrators said the White House presentation had   
   >> persuaded them of the benefits of random testing. But Baltimore social   
   >> worker Karen Harris-Waites said many in her school district would   
   >> probably see a mandatory program as too intrusive. That's happened in   
   >> other school districts. Williamsburg, Virginia,   
   >> decided to adopt a voluntary testing program earlier this month   
   >> instead of a mandatory program. And Roanoke County, Virginia, rejected a   
   >> mandatory program in 2004.   
   >> "It just seems to be very intrusive," said Roanoke County parent Larry   
   >> Morgan. "Just because they say you can do something doesn't mean it's   
   >> good policy."   
   >   
   > I would like to know. How many of the 100s of thousands of tests already   
   > complete, and not counting the testing for drugs, been secondary tested or   
   > genetically profiled ?   
   >   
   > After all why would the government stand between a rock and the hard   
   > place, on the assumption that teenagers might be smoking pot.   
   >   
   >   
   > Its clear to me, that if i allow the government to infringe on the rights   
   > of my child. While at the same time seeing my own diminish. If as a loving   
   > father did not protect them and there rights.   
   >   
   > I become the abuser of my children.   
   >   
   > For knowingly allowing it to happen.   
   >   
   > So I guess, the buck stops here.   
   >   
   > With two options.....   
   >   
   > 1. I let the government abuse my children, and take away there rights, and   
   > the rights of there children.   
   >   
   > or   
   >   
   > 2. Face the fact that MY child may one day smoke a little pot.   
   > and if he or she does. It has nothing to do with gw. unless he throws a   
   > lid into the mix.   
   >   
   > Heres my advice.   
   >   
   > Keep your blood stained hands off of "my kids" !   
   >   
   > Gen 1:29  And God said,Behold, I have given you "every" herb bearing seed,   
   > which is upon the face of all the earth and every tree, in which is the   
   > fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.   
   >   
   > Whats he frightened of. Everyone waking up, tuning in, ripping the knob   
   > off and dropping out ?   
   >   
   > isn't that what he did ?   
   >   
   > I,am laughing so hard. I pee`ed my pants.   
      
   The real question is "...is our children learning?"   
      
   Yeah, Bush and education ...two things that never met and never should.   
      
   ~e.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)