XPost: alt.education, alt.true-crime, pdx.general   
   XPost: or.politics   
   From: lojbab@lojban.org   
      
   "nimue"  wrote:   
   >>>> What the Principal did is the equivalent of a speeding ticket.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's not the point.  I don't care if it's the equivalent of a   
   >>> speeding ticket.  I think it is wrong that schools are allowed to   
   >>> drug test their students.  That is an absolute and utter invasion of   
   >>> privacy.   
   >>   
   >> No, it is not.   
   >   
   >How is it not?  Yes, it is.  How dare someone say, "I want to know what you   
   >do on your own free time," for no reason at all?   
      
   The reason is that "we the people" don't want kids to use drugs.   
      
   >>Playing sports requires subjecting one's self to random   
   >> drug testing. Those are the rules.   
   >   
   >They are the rules.  The rules are wrong.  And it is revolting that someone   
   >who clearly doesn't think smoking pot is wrong would enforce that rule.   
      
   He may think that smoking pot is OK for adults but not OK for kids.   
      
   More likely, he thinks that getting a pay check is good, and he might   
   lose that paycheck (and have a reduced chance for later employment) if   
   he doesn't enforce the rule.   
      
      
   >>Look at the drug use in professional sports.   
   >   
   >What about it?  There is drug use EVERYWHERE.   
      
   Apparently, enough people want to change this to put into effect rules   
   that affect people where it matters most to them - the pocketbook and   
   for students, their extracurricular eligibility.   
      
   >> There are, unfortunately, parents out there who would fill their kids   
   >> with steroids to improve the kid's athletic ability.   
   >   
   >If you think that is happening, call CPS.   
      
   No evidence - they can do nothing.   
      
   >>> and   
   >>> I think it's sad that a principal who smokes pot himself tests   
   >>> students to see if they did.   
   >>   
   >> I doubt that he does it.   
   >   
   >If this policy has not been enforced since he has been principal, I will be   
   >very pleased.   
      
   It isn't his choice.  If he doesn't enforce it, he'll likely lose his   
   job, with prejudice.   
      
   >>> We are just handing away our civil liberties, left and right.  Why do   
   >>> people let schools drug test their children?  What is going on?   
   >>   
   >> Because of abuse.   
   >   
   >What abuse?   
      
   Drug abuse.  Something we want to reduce, and drug testing seems to   
   have that effect.   
      
   lojbab   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)