XPost: alt.education, alt.true-crime, pdx.general   
   XPost: or.politics   
   From: lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net   
      
   "nimue"  wrote:   
      
   > Lobby Dosser wrote:   
   >> "nimue"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Bob LeChevalier wrote:   
   >>>> "nimue"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> What the Principal did is the equivalent of a speeding ticket.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That's not the point.  I don't care if it's the equivalent of a   
   >>>>>>> speeding ticket.  I think it is wrong that schools are allowed   
   >>>>>>> to drug test their students.  That is an absolute and utter   
   >>>>>>> invasion of privacy.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No, it is not.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How is it not?  Yes, it is.  How dare someone say, "I want to know   
   >>>>> what you do on your own free time," for no reason at all?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The reason is that "we the people" don't want kids to use drugs.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> Playing sports requires subjecting one's self to random   
   >>>>>> drug testing. Those are the rules.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> They are the rules.  The rules are wrong.  And it is revolting   
   >>>>> that someone who clearly doesn't think smoking pot is wrong would   
   >>>>> enforce that rule.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> He may think that smoking pot is OK for adults but not OK for kids.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> More likely, he thinks that getting a pay check is good, and he   
   >>>> might lose that paycheck (and have a reduced chance for later   
   >>>> employment) if he doesn't enforce the rule.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> Look at the drug use in professional sports.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What about it?  There is drug use EVERYWHERE.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Apparently, enough people want to change this to put into effect   
   >>>> rules that affect people where it matters most to them - the   
   >>>> pocketbook and for students, their extracurricular eligibility.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> There are, unfortunately, parents out there who would fill their   
   >>>>>> kids with steroids to improve the kid's athletic ability.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If you think that is happening, call CPS.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No evidence - they can do nothing.   
   >>>   
   >>> Oh, you can get evidence enough to open an investigation.  Ever   
   >>> worked with CPS?  It doesn't take much.   
   >>   
   >> I have. They were overloaded then and given recent incidents, I   
   >> suspect they are way overloaded now. "I *suspect* little Timmie is   
   >> using steroids" is going to the bottom a pile that includes "Uncle"   
   >> Ralph raping his "nieces".   
   >   
   > We get CPS involved for educational neglect -- that's a kid cutting   
   > school. Trust me, it can be done.  Anyhoo -- the point is that it is   
   > not the school's job to monitor steroid abuse.  If the school suspects   
   > abuse, it reports it to CPS.  Schools don't and shouldn't just   
   > randomly test students because they MIGHT be abusing steroids or any   
   > other drug.  Your belief that they should is disturbing.   
   >   
      
   I didn't say I think they should be doing it. In this case it is random   
   tests of athletes and The Supremes said it was just fine.   
      
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