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      XPost: ca.politics, alt.california, alt.support.marijuana       XPost: alt.economics       From: a425couple@hotmail.com              CBS NEWS January 2, 2018, 4:26 PM       California pot advocates say tax rates too high              OAKLAND -- Marijuana dispensaries across California experienced long       lines on the first day of legal recreational pot sales. But advocates       warned the legal industry won't survive without big changes, CBS SF Bay       Area reports.              "I'm very happy about – thrilled really – to see the legalization of       cannabis in California," said Steve DeAngelo, co-founder and CEO of       Harborside in Oakland. "At the same time, I'm terrified about what's       going to happen with these taxes."              Harborside has been a medical marijuana dispensary for more than a       decade, and is now selling recreational marijuana at a much higher price.              "In our shop here, the tax rate has gone from 15 percent all the way up       to almost 35 percent for adult consumers," DeAngelo said.              steved.png       Steve DeAngelo CBS SF BAY AREA       Here's how that math works for Harborside. There is the regular state       sales tax of 6 percent, and the regular Alameda County sales tax of 3.25       percent. Then there is a 15 percent state tax on marijuana, and a 10       percent Oakland tax on recreational marijuana.              Total taxes: 34.25 percent.              "That is a huge hit. And it's going to mean that a significant number of       people, less affluent consumers, are going to turn to the lower prices       of the underground market," DeAngelo said.              Some customers are willing to pay a premium for quality product, such as       Geno Escalante, who was among those in line on Monday.              "We all want the best stuff and you know the best stuff is always here       at Harborside," Escalante said.              geno.png       Geno Escalante CBS SF BAY AREA       DeAngelo said the black market may be lower cost, but Harborside offers       hundreds of products not available on the black market and they also       offer consumer protection.              "All of our medicine is tested in a laboratory," DeAngelo said. "It's       evaluated both for safety, for things like pesticides and pathogenic       molds, and it's also evaluated for potency."              Still, all this protection isn't cheap. In addition to taxes, marijuana       regulations drive up the cost.              "We have to pay rent, we have to have security systems, we have to pay       licensing fees, we have to have insurance, we have to buy equipment,"       DeAngelo said.              It adds up. And not everyone can pay the higher prices. People who are       disabled or on fixed incomes may turn to the black market.              "They can barely afford cannabis now, much less with a 35 or 40 percent       tax increase," DeAngelo said.              When people aren't buying from a regulated business, the state is       getting zero taxes.              Colorado, Washington state and Oregon each legalized marijuana at one       tax rate and then had to lower the rate to keep people in the legitimate       market. DeAngelo believes California will have to do the same.              "I don't think that the current tax rate for cannabis in California is       sustainable," he said.              Escalante agrees. "I honestly don't think this tax is gonna last too       much," the customer said. "They'll see that cannabis is not bad. It's a       plant."              DeAngelo said it makes no sense that marijuana is taxed so much more       than alcohol. California taxes beer and wine at 20 cents a gallon. That       amount has not changed since 1991.              As for federal alcohol taxes, the new tax law taking effect next year       decreases the taxes on beer, wine and spirits.                     Editor's Note: The video references a 5 percent Oakland tax on       marijuana. The 5 percent tax is on medical marijuana. Recreational       marijuana in the city is taxed at 10 percent.              © 2018 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.              https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-pot-advocates-say-tax-ra       es-too-high-legal-recreational-marijuana/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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