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      XPost: alt.support.marijuana, alt.politics.economics, or.politics       XPost: seattle.politics, alt.california       From: a425couple@hotmail.com              Could Big Tobacco Become Big Cannabis As Marijuana Business Soars?              BILL PETERS9:03 AM ET       A day before April 20, when a dome of pot fumes will account for       approximately 90% of the smog over Los Angeles and its hot marijuana       business, Big Tobacco stocks giants Altria Group (MO), sister firm       Philip Morris International (PM) and British American Tobacco (BTI)       tanked on fresh signs of declining demand.              X       The reason was that Philip Morris, which sells outside the U.S., fell       short of Q1 sales expectations, amid an ongoing consumer flight from       cigarettes in most of the world. Weaker-than-anticipated demand for       reduced-risk devices that aren't cigarettes, particularly in Japan, also       hurt.              One place where none of this is a problem, at least right now, is the       rapidly growing, quasi-legal marijuana business. More users, perhaps       accepting that they don't enjoy coughing or pot smoke's armpit-spice       smell, are turning to vaping devices. Some analysts say that trend could       be an opportunity for firms like Altria and Turning Point Brands (TPB),       which owns rolling-paper-maker Zig Zag and two vaping companies.              "Vaping is one of the fastest-growing segments in both nicotine and       cannabis," Cowen analyst Vivien Azer said in 2016. "Upon federal       legalization, Big Tobacco could leverage its expertise to explore the       legal cannabis market through vapor."              IBD Newsletters              She estimated then that Big Tobacco companies could nearly double their       underlying growth via cannabis. Overall, assuming full legalization, Big       Tobacco could scoop up around a fifth of the overall share of the       marijuana business by 2036, she said in a report then.              The marijuana delivery platform Eaze said last year that ready-to-use       products, which include vaping devices, for the first time made up a       greater portion of its sales than "flower," the industry's term for       buds. Vaporizers in November and December made up a greater percentage       of sales than dry, loose buds, according to data from the company, which       operates in California.              "Not a lot of people know how to roll a joint, or they don't have the       paraphernalia to consume the flower," Sheena Shiravi, Eaze's director of       communications. "So (with) prerolls, they can just consume flower, or       even better, a vaporizer."              Marijuana Business An 'Exciting Opportunity'       Marijuana store products       Vaping products on display at Med Men. (Elaine Low/IBD)       Even so, people do, in fact, still roll joints. Turning Point Brands       said in March that "there will be a whole new audience of consumers" of       people rolling their own in Canada, where recreational pot legalization       kicks in this year. Turning Point Brands at that time said it widened       its offering of its Zig Zag Orange and King-Size Slim rolling papers in       Canada, and that its partners were "exploring additional opportunity       products" beyond this year.              At a conference in January, Turning Point Brands CEO Larry Wexler said       that it saw the marijuana business as an "exciting opportunity" that it       was still trying to understand.              He added: "I suspect that there probably are some people who buy our       products that were intended for tobacco — my lawyer's sitting here —       intended for tobacco and they go off and they credibly use it for other       products."              Even as it remains enthusiastic about the marijuana business, Turning       Point Brands said in January that it had no plans for any prerolled       products. Azer suggested that tobacco companies pushing       lower-health-risk products might not want the extra glare from       regulators that could come with trying to sell their own joints.              "The tobacco industry is highly scrutinized and highly regulated," she       said. "And that's true in the U.S. and it's true globally as well. Right       now, one of the key priorities for global tobacco companies are their       reduced-risk product platforms."              Pesticide Worries For Marijuana Business       The marijuana business, however, has its own big health problems. In       California, new cannabis industry regulations on pesticides take hold in       July. Those rules have raised fears that the vast majority of the pot       sold via dispensaries would come up short, choking off supply and       pushing prices higher. The changes would likely favor the state's small       portion of licensed, deeper-pocketed pot growers.              Despite the marijuana industry's rebranding efforts — the rustic-chic       packaging and the chipper, minimalist startup logos — a lot of pot is       still loaded with chemicals that are bad for you, a Rolling Stone       article from March notes. That story also notes that because marijuana       is illegal on a federal level, the EPA hasn't approved or rejected what       pesticides to use for pot the way it does for other plants.              Quiet Moves By Big Tobacco       Meanwhile, other tobacco companies have made quieter moves that may, or       may not, signal interest in the marijuana business.              Philip Morris International planned to invest roughly $20 million in       Syqe Medical, an Israeli company that makes a cannabis inhaler,       according to reports in 2016. Syqe "will develop technologies for       Phillip Morris that will help reduce health risks associated with       smoking," Reuters said, citing the Israeli news outlet Calcalist.              Philip Morris declined to provide any extra information beyond existing       press accounts. The overseas Big Tobacco firm said it "has no plans to       develop or commercialize cannabis products." Similarly, Altria, which       owns Philip Morris USA and spun off Philip Morris International a decade       ago, said "Marijuana remains illegal under federal law and Altria's       companies have no plans to sell marijuana-based products."              Marijuana store products       (Elaine Low/IBD)       Imperial Brands (IMBBY), the U.K. company whose brands include       cigarettes like Winston and Kool, last year appointed Simon Langelier to       its board. Langelier is a 30-year Philip Morris International veteran       who is also chairman of a medical cannabis company. Imperial, in a       release, cited his experience in "wider consumer adjacencies."              When asked about how Imperial was viewing the cannabis market, Simon       Evans, a spokesman for the company, said it is "tracking developments in       what is a fast-growing segment."              Evans stressed that Langelier's experience at Philip Morris was the main       reason for his appointment. But Evans indicated his cannabis industry       experience wasn't just an afterthought. "So, is it irrelevant? No. It's       not," he said.              YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:              Will Marijuana Industry Overtake Beer As Legalization Spurs Innovation?              These Marijuana Stocks With Second-Hand Exposure May Surprise You              The Apple Store For Weed Partners With Nasdaq's First Pot Stock                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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