XPost: talk.politics.drugs, alt.philosophy   
   From: erj66@xs4all.nl   
      
   On 12-01-2004 22:00, in article 40031914$1@news.cadence.com, "Pete nospam   
   Zakel"  wrote:   
      
   > In article  "Dan Day"   
   >  writes:   
   >   
   >> How the hell is meditation, art, music, etc. "altered states of   
   >> consciousness"? Except under the influence of a drug, consciousness is all   
   >> the same.   
   >   
   > Really?  You really believe that?  I suggest you talk to some specialists   
   > on cognition.   
   >   
   > How about if you go for 48 hours without sleep (not using any drugs).  Are   
   > you telling me your state of consciousness at the end of the 48 hours will   
   > be the same as when you started?   
   >   
   > How about people under hypnosis?   
   >   
   > How about your state of mind immediately after a bad scare?   
      
   Or a fight with your spouse?   
      
   EJ   
      
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