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   "Manny Davis"  wrote in message   
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   > Pete nospam Zakel wrote in:   
   >   
   > > Manny Davis  writes:   
   > >   
   > >>If the drug war was a net loss for the state it would be   
   > >>ended tommorrow.   
   > >   
   > > It *IS* a net loss to the state.  It costs the state money, it   
   > > deprives the state of revenue,   
   >   
   > But the state has no money of its own. All costs are borne by the   
   > taxpayer, and the taxpayer is NOT the state. There are only three   
   > ways the state can obtain money:   
   >   
   > 1. It can demand tribute (aka taxation) from the people. Those who   
   > do not pay tribute are arrested and imprisoned.   
   >   
   > 2. It can take out a loan, spend and waste the money, then force the   
   > taxpayer to repay the loan.   
   >   
   > 3. It can print paper dollars. Each additional paper dollar printed   
   > devalues the existing dollars and is therefore just another tax.   
   >   
   > Please don't respond with "we the citizens (taxpayers) are the   
   > government". We are not.   
   >   
   > The government spends the money it has stolen and extorted from the   
   > people in whichever way it sees fit. If the politicians who control the   
   > state apparatus believe they will benefit by spending the money fighting   
   > the drug war, then that is what will (and does) happen.   
   >   
   > > and it increases disrespect for the state   
   >   
   > I don't think the drug war increases disrespect for the state, because no   
   > sane individual respects the state in the first place. The drug war is a   
   > failure, but everything the state does is a failure, from government-run   
   > (public) housing to government-run (public) schools the state's record of   
   > gross incompetence is unmatched. The few things governments are good at   
   > is starting wars, causing famines, and operating prisons and work camps,   
   > none of which deserve any respect.   
   >   
   > > and social disorder.   
   >   
   > Governments relish social disorder. Social disorder causes "crises" and   
   > "emergencies" which, as we all know, permit the state to grab even more   
   > power. Tell me, was the 9/11 terrorist attack good or bad for the   
   > government? Is the government more or less powerful now since 9/11?   
      
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   You sir, have become quite dangerous.   
      
   These are things you are not supposed to understand. Worse, these are things   
   you are not supposed to tell others about, lest they too understand. You may   
   have to be ashcrofted if you continue along this path.   
      
   GEM   
      
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