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   Re: How can the left coordinate internat   
   05 Sep 18 02:17:48   
   
   From: abaddon@purgatory.org.invalid   
      
   It was written by a real gentile capitalist, a self proclaimed market   
   socialist:   
      
   > Steven Schneider   
   >> /snip/   
   >> The left needs to get its ideas out there and the right,   
   >> admittedly, has been better at doing this in Western societies.   
   >> So, how can the left coordinate internationally?   
   >   
   > Co-ordination is useless when people do not even have a clear plan and   
   > objective. Even if people have a clear and practical plan, co-ordination   
   > is still useless, until those wanting to co-ordinate anything are doing   
   > everything they can to live their own beliefs, and have done so for some   
   > time.   
      
   People not living up to their own beliefs as much as under the given   
   circumstance possible are called hypocrites.   
      
   > The left is a complete mess regarding its ideological makeup.   
      
   The left is fragmented. So what! So is the political right.   
   In politics, the opposition only wins real traction when the ruling   
   political block completely fails and finally the average punter out on   
   the streets also recognise that.   
      
   > Everyone who rejects the market principle on principle, is lost.   
      
   Only those are  at a loss who subscribe to capitalism per se, like some   
   social democrats and their "market socialists" subsets. Rejecting   
   capitalist markets is one thing all true socialists regardless of their   
   particular finer philosophical orientation all seem to agree on.   
      
   > Everyone who is against the vote, is lost.   
      
   Socialists aren't against voting.   
      
   > Everyone who cannot be made to understand that the land belongs to all,   
      
   Of course it does...it belongs to everyone... and yes it is our planet,   
   it belongs to all of us!   
   YAY! Socialism 101!   
      
   > People below 25 are politically children, there might still be hope for   
   > them later.   
      
   The tomorrow starts today. A new and fresh take on society and the future   
   that people of this planet so urgently need can but benefit from fresh   
   and unprejudiced young minds. Hail our youth!   
   They are the future, we are the dark past!   
      
   > The left is dead.   
      
   Welcome to the planet of the walking dead! ;)   
      
   > There it shows how completely lost the left is. Completely lost   
   > ...   
      
   Even doomsday sayers should learn to speak only for themselves unless   
   they are actually nominated into a spokesperson's position.   
      
   > What a total defeat of the left, and that on the eve of World War 3.   
   > They do not even see it ! What a joke.   
      
   The sky is falling...obviously!   
      
   > For now, there is nothing to co-ordinate. There is nobody there.   
      
   If one locks him/herself up into a hermits' cave one should not complain   
   about loneliness and isolation.   
      
      
   --   
   Ördög, without any apologies   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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