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   Message 17,976 of 19,807   
   New York Libertarians to Steven Schneider   
   Re: Bernie Sanders demonstrates that he'   
   24 Sep 18 07:27:28   
   
   d70254ed   
   From: wernerhetzner@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 10:49:56 PM UTC-4, Steven Schneider wrote:   
   > Hello comrades,...   
   >    
   > Remember, Social Democrats kill Rosa Luxemburg!   
   >    
      
      
   Are you not the one forgetting? Communists killed tens of millions! Doesn't   
   that count?    
      
      
   > "Bernie Sanders obscures the facts of U.S. militarism, and urges    
   > Americans to fixate on axis of evil oligarch-ruled countries that    
   > does not include the home of the richest oligarchs of all: the    
   > United States.   
   >    
      
      
   You ignore the fact that communist oligarchs also ruled countries.      
      
      
   > \\The U.S. is an oligarchy in which business interests almost\\    
   > \\always get their way.\\   
   >    
      
   Whose interests do communist oligarchs support?    
      
      
   ....   
   > \\Sanders conflates and confuses the bourgeois electoral franchise\\    
   > \\with actual democracy in order to create a ‘moral’ rationale for\\    
   > \\siding with U.S. imperialism.\\   
   >    
      
   You conflate and confuse the communist feudal system with democracy.     
      
   ...   
   >    
   > \\The foreign policy of the U.S. superpower, ruled by white\\    
   > \\billionaires, is aimed at preserving the white supremacist\\    
   > \\global order.\\   
   >    
      
      
   As communist superpowers, ruled by white feudalists, aim to preserve their   
   power.    
      
   ...Sanders then returns to his usual, “progressive    
   > populist” spiel, full of worthy words like:   
   >    
   > “Our job is to fight for a future in which new technology and    
   > innovation works to benefit all people, not just a few. It is not    
   > acceptable that the top 1% of the world's population owns half the    
   > planet's wealth, while the bottom 70% of the working age population    
   > accounts for just 2.7% of global wealth.   
   >    
      
   It is also not acceptable that communist feudalists own everything while their   
   subjects own nothing.      
      
      
   ...But he is a fool if he thinks that “a genuinely    
   > progressive global order based on human solidarity, an order that    
   > recognizes that every person on this planet shares a common    
   > humanity, that we all want our children to grow up healthy, to have    
   > a good education, have decent jobs, drink clean water, breathe clean    
   > air and live in peace” can coexist with military budgets like the    
   > one supported by 70 percent of the Democrats. Sanders’ “New    
   > Authoritarian Axis” seeks to give “progressives” a reason to accept,    
   > and even love, U.S. militarism and imperialism.   
   > ...   
      
   You might believe left authoritarians are morally superior to right   
   authoritarians but history shows the opposite. The 'general welfare' declines   
   with more government and improves with less.    
   http://www.endit.info/Theft.shtml      
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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