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   abelard to abaddon@purgatory.org.invalid   
   Re: has socialism *ever* produced any go   
   06 Oct 18 11:09:36   
   
   From: abelard3@abelard.org   
      
   On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 23:24:54 -0000 (UTC), Ördög   
    wrote:   
      
   >It was written by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein:   
   >   
   >> Joe  wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:42:39 -0400 Obadiah Brookfield   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>>  > Well, has it?   
   >>>> No, because socialism (a classless society based on worker's   
   >>>> democratic control of the industries) has never been tried before.   
   >>   
   >>> It was offered to some UK industries, until it became obvious that what   
   >>> we were actually getting was trades union leaders' control of them.   
   >>>   
   >>> See the new boss...   
   >>   
   >> It always amuses me to see people slag off 'the unions', because unless   
   >> you're very, _very_ wealthy, or the boss of a successful company, then   
   >> the only reason you're not working 364 days a year and earning 50 p an   
   >> hour is because of the fucking unions.   
   >   
   >Well said!   
   >Union bashing has become an upper-class neo-liberal sport these days.   
   >Forget the socio-economic facts!   
      
   another socialist myth   
      
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