XPost: uk.politics.misc, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: abelard3@abelard.org   
      
   On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 10:27:30 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein   
    wrote:   
      
   >abelard  wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 23:24:54 -0000 (UTC), Ördög   
   >>  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>It was written by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein:   
   >   
   >>>> Joe  wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:42:39 -0400 Obadiah Brookfield   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>  > Well, has it?   
   >   
   >>>>>> No, because socialism (a classless society based on worker's   
   >>>>>> democratic control of the industries) has never been tried before.   
   >   
   >>>>> It was offered to some UK industries, until it became obvious that   
   >>>>> what we were actually getting was trades union leaders' control of   
   >>>>> them.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> See the new boss...   
   >   
   >>>> It always amuses me to see people slag off 'the unions', because unless   
   >>>> you're very, _very_ wealthy, or the boss of a successful company, then   
   >>>> the only reason you're not working 364 days a year and earning 50 p an   
   >>>> hour is because of the fucking unions.   
   >   
   >>>Well said!  Union bashing has become an upper-class neo-liberal sport   
   >>>these days.  Forget the socio-economic facts!   
   >   
   >> another socialist myth from yet another cowardly poster   
   >   
   >Yeah, because even without unions, the capitalists would have increased   
   >wages, and given twenty-five days paid leave to their employees.  They're   
   >nice that way.   
      
   your 'economics' is as bereft as your fake politics   
      
   wages('income') rose during the black death...there was just   
      more to go around...   
      
   wages adjust to supply and demand...not your magic money   
       trees or unions or pseudo-marxist blitherings   
      
   no producer can sell to those who haven't the ability to buy...   
      
   you live in 5 yo's playground of fantasy 'economics'...not the   
       real world   
      
   go get yourself another certificate and fool yourself into believing   
       that will make you intelligent or educated   
      
      
      
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