XPost: uk.politics.misc   
   From: incubus9536612@gmail.com   
      
   On 06/10/2018 00:24, Ördög wrote:   
   > It was written by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein:   
   >   
   >> Joe  wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:42:39 -0400 Obadiah Brookfield   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> Well, has it?   
   >>>> No, because socialism (a classless society based on worker's   
   >>>> democratic control of the industries) has never been tried   
   >>>> before.   
   >>   
   >>> It was offered to some UK industries, until it became obvious   
   >>> that what we were actually getting was trades union leaders'   
   >>> control of them.   
   >>>   
   >>> See the new boss...   
   >>   
   >> It always amuses me to see people slag off 'the unions', because   
   >> unless you're very, _very_ wealthy, or the boss of a successful   
   >> company, then the only reason you're not working 364 days a year   
   >> and earning 50 p an hour is because of the fucking unions.   
   >   
   > Well said! Union bashing has become an upper-class neo-liberal sport   
   > these days.   
      
   That is likely because of the behaviour of certain unions such as the RMT.   
      
   > Forget the socio-economic facts!   
      
   That has certainly happened in this thread.  There are particular   
   industries that have never had unions and have always paid well in order   
   to attract those with the best skills.  If you are unskilled then   
   perhaps you should thank your union.  The rest of us can thank the   
   market forces that make our skills more valuable to employers.   
      
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