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   From: danskisanjar@gmail.com   
      
   "Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein"  wrote in message   
   news:kuro8f-kfb.ln1@server.com.il...   
   > abelard  wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 10:27:30 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>>abelard  wrote:   
   >>>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 23:24:54 -0000 (UTC), Ördög   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>It was written by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein:   
   >>>>>> Joe  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:42:39 -0400 Obadiah Brookfield   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>  > Well, has it?   
   >   
   >>>>>>>> No, because socialism (a classless society based on worker's   
   >>>>>>>> democratic control of the industries) has never been tried before.   
   >   
   >>>>>>> It was offered to some UK industries, until it became obvious that   
   >>>>>>> what we were actually getting was trades union leaders' control of   
   >>>>>>> them.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> See the new boss...   
   >   
   >>>>>> It always amuses me to see people slag off 'the unions', because   
   >>>>>> unless you're very, _very_ wealthy, or the boss of a successful   
   >>>>>> company, then the only reason you're not working 364 days a year and   
   >>>>>> earning 50 p an hour is because of the fucking unions.   
   >   
   >>>>>Well said!  Union bashing has become an upper-class neo-liberal sport   
   >>>>>these days.  Forget the socio-economic facts!   
   >   
   >>>> another socialist myth from yet another cowardly poster   
   >   
   >>>Yeah, because even without unions, the capitalists would have increased   
   >>>wages, and given twenty-five days paid leave to their employees.  They're   
   >>>nice that way.   
   >   
   >> your 'economics' is as bereft as your fake politics   
   >>   
   >> wages('income') rose during the black death...there was just more to go   
   >> around...   
   >>   
   >> wages adjust to supply and demand...not your magic money trees or unions   
   >> or pseudo-marxist blitherings   
   >>   
   >> no producer can sell to those who haven't the ability to buy...   
   >>   
   >> you live in 5 yo's playground of fantasy 'economics'...not the real world   
   >>   
   >> go get yourself another certificate and fool yourself into believing that   
   >> will make you intelligent or educated   
   >   
   > Oh, wow!  Feel the rage, ladies and gentlemen!  Taste the fury!  Something   
   > I wrote really pissed off our fascist troll, what could it have been??   
   > Oh,   
   > yes.  It was something that contradicted this hilarious claim...   
   >   
   > 'the tories have always cared more for the poor than socialists'   
   > ('abelard', 19 September 2018)   
   >   
   > You're either trolling or as thick as shit.  Oh, wait...   
      
   Says the biggest coward on usenet... snert...lmao...what a pussy...   
      
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