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|    Annona Muricata to All    |
|    Re: OT lie-bertarian whinge cover story:    |
|    11 Aug 19 00:35:08    |
      From: Magnoliale@Annonaceae.Annona.biz.invalid              > minimum-wage-now-officially-disaster              YAWN!       Why don't you actually tell the readers of this recurrent capitalist lie-       bertarian social Darwinist crap complaint what you really think?              C'me on! They might not like what you have to say, but at least you'd be       honest just once in your greedy bastard ego maniac miserable life!              *Liberals, Conservatives, Libertarians and Gun People, Just Admit What       You Really Believe.*       *Dump The Cover Arguments And Say It Like It Is*       /DavidGrace       Nov 20, 2017/              "*Cover Reasons Vs. Real Reasons*              There’s a big difference between a reason that people give for doing       something and the real reason they have for doing it.       People always have a reason for wanting to do something, but often they       only give you a cover reason, camouflage for the real reason because they       don’t want to say their real reason out loud.              For example: “I subscribe Playboy for the great articles,” is an oldie       but a goodie.              What’s the difference between a cover reason and the real reason?       If you take away all the cover reasons and leave only the real reason,       they would still want to do it, but if you leave all the cover reasons       and take away the real reason, they would no longer want to do it.       If you took away the great articles and left the naked women the men       still would have subscribed to Playboy.       If you took away the naked women and left the great articles, bingo,       subscriptions cancelled at warp speed.              _Another Example_              Your teenage daughter asks if she can go to a late screening of an old       movie on a school night. She tells you:               The movie ties into a paper she’s writing for school (Cover Reason).        It’s a classic movie that’s won numerous awards (Cover Reason).        One of the actors is now a big star who’s active in ending starvation       in Africa (Cover Reason).              Upon some questioning she admits that, oh, yes, a certain boy she likes       will be there (Real Reason).              _People Think That Giving A Cover Reason Means They’re Not Lying_              It’s common that people don’t want to admit the real reasons for what       they say and do. They think that by giving cover reasons they can pretend       that, technically, they’re telling the truth when, actually, they’re not.       They’re like Bill Clinton defining sex as only meaning intercourse so       that he can claim he told the truth when he said that he didn’t have sex       with Monica Lewinsky.              _Lawyers call it “A scheme fitted to deceive.”_              When I hear people spouting all these cover reasons and never owning up       to the real reasons I want to shout, “Hey, just say it. If that’s what       you believe, then that’s what you believe. Admit it. Stand up for it.”       I’m talking to you, Gun People, Liberals, Conservatives and Libertarians              *Gun People*              Why do Gun People want anyone to be able to go to a gun show and buy an       AR-15 with a 50 shot magazine without a background check?               Reverence for the Constitution — Cover Reason.        Need it for self-defense against killers, rapists, and other        criminals — Cover Reason        Great hunting rifle — BIG Cover Reason              >Real Reason: We need to be able to arm ourselves with military-style       weapons with big magazines that can be fired in full-auto or close to       full-auto mode so that when the liberals, immigrants, and black people       take over the government and start passing laws that take away our       freedoms we will be able to rise up in an armed revolution against the       government.              >Real Reason: We need to be able to arm ourselves with military-style       weapons with big magazines that can be fired in full-auto or close to       full-auto mode so that when our one-worlder government allows U.N. troops       to stream across the border to take over the country we will be able to       mount an armed revolution against the government.              >Real Reason: We need to be able to arm ourselves with military-style       weapons with big magazines that can be fired in full-auto or close to       full-auto mode so that when the Russians (or maybe the Chinese) stage a       sneak attack and invade the country like the commies did in Red Dawn, we       will be able to mount a counter-attack and repel the invaders.              Gun People, you know those are the real reasons you want anyone to be       able to anonymously buy AK-47s and AR-15s with big magazines, so just       admit it.       If you think those are good reasons then stand up for your beliefs and       say so.              *Liberals*              Why do some liberals want to enact a Guaranteed Minimum Income?        To unleash the vast, untapped, creative potential of most poor people              — Cover Reason.        Because this extra money will make it easier for poor people to turn        down food-stamp-wage jobs — Cover Reason        To stimulate the economy by putting more money in the hands of        consumers — Cover Reason.              > Real Reason: To fund a massive transfer of wealth from the top 20% to       the bottom 40%.       You think it’s wrong for the top 20% to have more money than the entire       bottom 80%. I get it. But if you want to enact a program that will even       out the wealth, then just say that.              *Conservatives*              Why do many/most conservatives oppose a living-wage minimum wage?        Because they believe raising the minimum wage will cause a big        increase unemployment              — Cover reason.        Because they believe raising the minimum wage will cause a big spike        in inflation — Cover reason.              >Real Reason: Because they believe that low-skilled people shouldn’t be        paid that much money.              You think that the poor skills and low training and intelligence of the       people on the bottom mean they’re not worth being paid enough money to       live on leastwise enough to live on and also purchase health insurance.       You think it’s just not right to pay them that much, that their low level       of intelligence and skill doesn’t entitle them to be paid health       insurance and a living wage, that barely subsistence wages are all       they’re worth.       OK, I get it.       Just admit it.              *Libertarians*              Why do libertarians oppose consumer protection laws?        Because the market will automatically force manufacturers to make        safe, good products without the need for any regulations              — Cover reason.        Because consumers can voluntarily avoid bad or unsafe products on        their own without any consumer-protection laws being needed        — Cover reason              >Real Reason: Because the fundamental rule in the catechism of the       libertarian’s political religion is that people should be free to do       whatever they want to do without there being any rules. The truth is that              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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