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   New York Libertarians to The greatest truth is honesty   
   Re: The centrally planned economy is a b   
   09 Nov 19 07:40:20   
   
   From: wernerhetzner@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, November 9, 2019 at 6:15:06 AM UTC-5, The greatest truth is   
   honesty wrote:   
   > On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 07:55:24 -0700, rbowman wrote:   
   >    
   > > On 11/06/2019 04:27 AM, Jos Boersema wrote:   
   > >> Land underpins a free market economy, and it is an insurance policy for   
   > >> people who become unemployed. It allows those who want to, to start a   
   > >> business very easily, and it also challenges those to do that even if   
   > >> they do not want to, but they must because they must eat and they can   
   > >> otherwise not find a serf position that pays them enough. Getting a job   
   > >> is in the end a privilege, you cannot rely on it.   
   > >    
   > > I have never owned land and had no problem starting a business. In fact    
   > > being linked to a specific geographical point would have been    
   > > detrimental. Some of us a hunter-gatherers, so to speak, some are    
   > > farmers. Historically, the concept of owning a particular chunk of the    
   > > earth lead to hierarchical social structures and serfdom.   
   > >    
   >    
   > Hunting tribes consider that some areas belong to them.   
      
      
   “Historically, the concept of owning a particular chunk of the    
   earth lead to hierarchical social structures and serfdom.”   
      
   The USSR was but one example where NOT owning land led to hierarchical social   
   structures and serfdom. Besides, I can’t think of an example of a society   
   without a social structure. it seems to me ‘serfdom’ is involuntary by   
   definition. It requires    
   imposition which requires force and power, not land.    
      
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