XPost: soc.culture.jewish   
   From: joshb@xs4all.nl   
      
   On 2019-11-06, The greatest truth is honesty  wrote:   
   > On 06 Nov 2019 11:27:25 GMT, Jos Boersema wrote:   
   >> On 2019-11-06, The greatest truth is honesty  wrote:   
   >>> On 05 Nov 2019 16:08:45 GMT, Jos Boersema wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> The centrally planned economy is a bureaucratic nightmare,   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes   
   >>>   
   >>>>                 people need land.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why? Many people today own no land and are quite happy.   
   >>   
   >> That is a good question. A similar question is: why do people need the   
   >> right to vote ? Many people are quite happy without voting. Another   
   >> question: why do people need the right to express their opinions   
   >> publicly, most people are quite happy never expressing their opinions in   
   >> public. Another question: why would people need laws that protect them   
   >> from torture ? Most people are not being tortured, and do not think they   
   >> run a significant risk of being tortured. You think you do not need   
   >> these things, until you do but then it is too late.   
   >   
   > 100 years ago, I would agree with you but now, things have moved on.   
      
   Vacuous argument. Are we living in space ships, so that we no longer   
   have 'soil' the way we used to (natural resources) ? Forget it.  All the   
   basics are what they ever where.   
      
   > What I think you should say is that the right to own property is much more   
   > than land, in particular it included you Intellectual rights such as   
   > copyright, patents, trade marks, registered designs, plant breeder's rights   
   > and circuit layouts. It also includes the right to privacy in a place you   
   > rent. Land is just one example.   
      
   Land is not "just one example." Everything is land, and there is nothing   
   without there being land first, last, and in between. You sit on land,   
   the material your computer was made out off came from land. The garbage   
   will re-enter land. Your work is in a place, and a 'place' implies land.   
   All work begins on land. Land is critical to almost any business. You   
   might get away with owning only the land you live on (again, that is   
   land), and using the land indirectly that others are using (for example   
   to buy tools), and get away to a degree (seemingly) without owning your   
   share of the land (by being a traveling repair man). We can't all be   
   traveling repair men, but even repair men need land to be distributed to   
   all or otherwise there is no base economy to be a repair man in.   
      
   Most people today live in a state of economic fantasy, not understanding   
   almost anything about even the business or organization they work at.   
   They did not set that up, therefore they have no clue that the first   
   order of business of that administrative assistance agency which   
   seemingly does not use land first had to struggle to ? FIND A PLACE,   
   and how much it cost them when they finally got it, and continues to   
   cost them. You don't see that, because you are a serf. Others see that,   
   because they deal with the reality of it.   
      
   If you want to start a business without a Capital parasite on it, you   
   need to start small and cheap. On your own land, that is.   
      
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