XPost: soc.culture.jewish
From: joshb@xs4all.nl
On 2019-11-05, The greatest truth is honesty wrote:
> On 03 Nov 2019 17:33:36 GMT, Jos Boersema wrote:
>> On 2019-11-03, The greatest truth is honesty wrote:
>>> On 03 Nov 2019 12:17:01 GMT, Jos Boersema wrote:
>>>
>>>> We should also drive hard laws that make it impossible for
>>>> anyone to own obscene amounts of Capital (wealth, land, businesses),
>>>> because it destroys both the market and the representative State.
>>>
>>> What is obsecene and how does it destory market and the representative
>>> State?
>>
>> Extreme wealth concentration destroys the market, because a market
>> requires many independent businesses to compete, whereas if one or a few
>> of them become extremely large / wealthy they will have the effect of a
>> Monopoly or Cartel in that market. When they get even larger, they get
>> so much money that they can start influencing politics in a big way, for
>> example by buying up the newspapers and TV channels.
>
> You are talking here of the problem of monopolies, not big money as such.
It is both. Big money tends to imply a monopoly, they will try to make
one. They should not even have the capacity to do it. Big companies
cause Big money to come about.
Humanity still has not learned even to farm, so it may be back to the stone
age soon to learn everything all over again. When you farm well, you
give each type of plant their space, you give each species of plant
their space, and you give each individual plant their space. You are not
going to want everything to be one species to crush out all others. You
are going to prune your apple tree, so that you still have space to grow
something else. You are not going to allow your livestock to forrage
upon your fine crops, but set them on grass and keep them away from your
crops.
> For example, without access to large sums of money, you can pay and operate
> an oil rig, you cannot lay an internet cable to cross the ocean, you cannot
> design and build planes, etc.
If you have an industry that is Capital intensive and you want to make
it private, you will *still* need to make sure nobody gains enough power
and money to control it *all*. The whole industry is simply at a higher
absolute Capital rate, but compared to each other they should be in a
healthy balance with enough playing room to the upside, but not so much
that they will own your Government and start waging wars to conquer the
remainder of the market by mass murder (which is what they are doing and
have been doing for decades.)
Example:
A Capital maximum in the bread making industry enough to operate - say -
five independent locations of bakeries (a sort of small chain), could be
decided to be enough for that market. Let's say each location is a
million dollar/euro in Capital, for a maximum of 5 million. I merely use
example numbers, you can make them different if you want. Anyone can see
that under such a rule there will likely be more independent and free
bakeries than under a rule that has no capital limit (given the state of
human behavior). Bakeries are dying here, by the way - soon we will only
have a handfull of massive conglomerates, and then Capitalism will have
finally become Communism: everything centrally planned. Is that what you
want ?
In the oil rig business, assuming you want to make it private, you can
do the same. Let's say for the sake of argument: 5 rigs per business
maximum. You will see that there will be a lot of independent oil
businesses, which lowers the chance of them forming a cartel and also
lowers the chance of them owning the Government. The cost of one oil rig
might be 100 million dollar/euro, making the Capital limit in this
industry: half a billion euro. In my proposed Constitution you can do
this (chapter 7).
An internet cable through the ocean is by nature probably best done by
the State, or closely overseen by it, because it is one of those
infrastructure elements that competition is probably not working well with
(compare the water distribution network or the electricity grid). Did
you even know that America was build by such public "corporations" ? Now
that you are increasingly mad Capitalists, you country is falling apart.
You call us Socialist (Fascists do anyway), and European Nations are
indeed a to the left of the USA, but our infrastructure is just fine (in
fact they have been building on it like crazy for the last 10 years, so
it is getting more modernized all the time).
So much for the rule by the super-rich. Why do you think the super-rich
privateers care for anyone other than themselves ? At least with
the Government we get the vote. Why do you want to be a serf to the
super-rich, or do you fancy yourselve in a role of death squad to kill
people who protest ? I know it is not your ambition to become super rich
yourself, at least not consciously so, because you know full well that
is hopeless. You now serve another tool for the Billionaires (Trump),
and before that you had the liar tool Obama. Is it working out for you,
to serve the TV and the mega-businesses who control the minds of the
American people ? Are you scared of being free, with your own land,
having to do something productive ? Why do you want to be a slave to the
super rich so much.
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