XPost: soc.culture.jewish   
   From: joshb@xs4all.nl   
      
   On day 4 of the Collapse, New York Libertarians wrote:   
   > Good luck to you as well. I have an extended trip to Straßburg   
   > scheduled in a few weeks. That may not happen under the   
   > circumstances. 😟   
      
   Thank you, and good luck to you also. You better try to isolate, until   
   the common and mindless serfs are forced to acknowledge reality, now that   
   *they* are the target. It seems that the period of pretending that the   
   Coronavirus is merely the flu is ending. The ruling class got the virus   
   to spread thank to the apathetic attitude they created with that lie,   
   and now they are going to milk the crises they created.   
      
   The financial markets are melting down, and I've now heard news that the   
   USA is bombing Iranian linked targets in the middle east. A risk at this   
   point seems to be that the ruling class will not want people to harden   
   their position by sobering up mentally, buying food and weapons, getting   
   trained and possibly readying themselves to overthrow the criminals in   
   power. The common serf only becomes angry, once their own wallet   
   shrinks. No matter the evil, so long as it is someone else suffering,   
   they are fine with it. Now however the economy seems to go crash at   
   street level, and that will upset the people generally. Then they get   
   angry. The ruling class of course knows this.   
      
   Hence the risk is that they are going to want to keep punching, to   
   prevent people to find a new balance. By keeping people in the weak   
   state they are now, they are easier to control. This helps greatly when   
   installing a tyranny. If the ruling class has decided the time is right   
   for them to install a tyranny, which I think it is obvious that they do   
   think that, they would probably want to shock and weaken the population,   
   until they have solidified their regime and the new way in which this   
   economy/society is supposed to work. They will want to install something   
   like a Chinese regime over the western world, and then slowly but surely   
   make it even worse, as the Chinese are also doing with the new   
   technologies.   
      
   If they don't allow people to stock up, start vegetable gardens, train   
   for civil war, get armed, learn survival skills and get some historical   
   perspective, then instead of facing a willfull movement of relatively   
   strong and capable people, they would have fat and shallow people stand   
   in line at the FEMA food hand out, bickering over toilet paper while   
   angry about missing their favorite cartoons / sports / soaps on TV.   
      
   There is a world of difference between these two possibilities, if you   
   want to install a tyranny. The populations are huge. The ruling class   
   can be vanguished easily by the enormous amounts of people. It would   
   be like a elephant just shifting in its sleep, and the ruling class   
   would be squashed like a bug at the wrong place. If the Coronavirus   
   crisis plays out under relatively normal conditions, and things are   
   allowed to be normalized afterwards, than the people will learn from   
   that. It alters the psyche of the people to a degree (temporarily).   
      
   They will be a bit smarter, less trusting of the liars on TV hopefully   
   (now that they have seen the lies about it being nothing more than the   
   flu, which caused the crisis to get multiple times worse), they will   
   have seen who people who warned them to prepare for decades (like me)   
   fared a lot better, etc. However, it takes time for that to take hold.   
   If we still have a relatively open society, with a meaningful vote, etc,   
   this attitude could cause a great pushback against the criminal ruling   
   class. From that point, it will become more difficult for the criminals   
   to make headway with a tyrannical program, than it is now with the   
   populations being distracted with their own decadence. Since they do   
   want a tyranny, I don't see how they will not try to push their program   
   as hard as they can during a crisis, and attempt to make themselves   
   stronger by weakening the population / not allowing the population time   
   to rebalance themselves than until they are at a new point of tyranny   
   that is as harsh as they think they can get away with.   
      
   Incidentally an epidemic is a great excuse to install a dictatorial   
   regime, with all these quarantines necessary, etc. FEMA has well stocked   
   their camps with group burrial coffins. The infrastructure for a tyranny   
   in the USA is well developed: fusion centers for detecting political   
   dissent, militarized police (essentially the army is already on the   
   streets, they call themselves 'police'), etc. The storm Katrina proved   
   that at least most Americans will allow themselves to be disarmed.   
      
   I think hence that it is likely that the criminals will push through   
   and push hard, even as hard as they possibly can. That way they disallow   
   resistance groups the time to overcome their differences. Hence all   
   should be ready to take on such a tyrannical enemy, and it would come   
   down to the individual choices of who wants to be a traitor, and who   
   is willing to risk death for a decent civilization.   
      
   Once the virus has helped with installing an even worse dictatorship   
   than the USA has now, the risk of mutiny will be reduced by starting   
   some war. This war could already be World War III with Russia, which is   
   the big one that will act the best as a straight jacket on the American   
   people and its forces. It will probably work like a charm, because of   
   the generational programming that the Americans have been subjected to   
   on this topic. Meanwhile there will of course be the big issue that   
   nobody remembers or sees: the implosion of the State debt pyramid scam,   
   and how the big corporations are merging with the State to call what   
   Mussolini called: Fascism (Corporatism, the merger of the Corporations   
   with the State, which is a fact today due to the bailouts with public   
   money). The tyranny will then be run, by the Corporations, who have   
   overtaken the State, using the State as their private force multiplier.   
      
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   In order to end this on a good and constructive note: It seems to me   
   that much of the above is baked into the cake at this point. The   
   populations are not prepared, they chose to be decadent to the bitter   
   end, and they will pay a deadly price for it. They will pay a deadly   
   price for not caring about other people, or hearing the other side of   
   the story. They cause all this upon themselves. Rather than sobering up   
   and learning to be political adults due to the Coronavirus or a stock   
   crash, to some degree, I doubt it will happen due to a) the ruling class   
   not affording the population that time (argued above) and b) because   
   this is not enough shock yet for the populations to stop their bad   
   behaviors.   
      
   The populations are *much worse* in their behavior, than they think   
   themselves. They tend to think they are sort of allright and not too bad,   
      
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