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|    Jos Boersema to All    |
|    The Collapse seems to be ongoing (1/3)    |
|    09 Mar 20 13:50:21    |
      XPost: soc.culture.jewish, alt.native       From: joshb@xs4all.nl              The Collapse is here, this is it. It seems certain, it has become self       evident. The Coronavirus isn't the collapse in and of itself, but it       seems to be a facet of the broader collapse. Obviously these are       guesses, undersigned is not part of the criminals doing all these       things.              What is still not self evident is that this virus is merely going to be       the leading edge of a whole world of hurt which is going to be hitting       mankind. It seems that the reports about the stock market are that it is       crashing, but then being propped up by astronomical money printing. This       is claimed (by people who seem honest) to then bring all this ownership       power into the hands of those who print the money to buy all these       ownership papers with the newly printed money that they control. The       consequence is a tsunami of money, which eventually should lead to       inflation.              It seems that this virus has the ability to kill about 1%-3% of the whole       population, and put 10% - 18% in a hospital bed. That is bad, it is a       great shock. It is not nearly as bad as the Black Death, which killed 50%       of the population in several waves. It is also not comparable to the flu,       as the lying media claims (the flu only reaches 6% of the population,       and has a case fatality rate of less than 0.1% acc. Wikipedia: it kills       some 0.06% of the entire population per year.) The actions in China       and now Italy speak for themselves. So do the criminal activities       of western Governments, health departments and fraudulent media, who       seem to want to virus to spread by giving false information.              You better had prepared already. If you still haven't, not much time is       left to do it.               - Moral preparation is most important, you should always do what        is good, and improve any bad habits you may have.               If that's all you do, I still wish you good luck ! Nothing else really        matters. But still you want to survive, and that too is a good thing        for good people.               - Social preparation: make friends, reduce the enemy list. It's not        a great thing to have a lot of enemies and few friends, when times        get difficult.               - Physical survival: I figure there is 4 ways to think about that.        a) How did our ancestors live, the further back in time you can        live like they did, the better your chances, because if the        system goes down it is like time reverts back to the past.        b) The rule of 3s of your body needs. You can survive like 3 seconds        with your body exploded, 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 hours in        the worst weather, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food,        3 months without some sort of shelter etc. Maybe 3 years from        food supplies but then you need to either farm or hunt/gather        Sortof. It gives some idea about what is important in the short        to long term.        c) What do you need on a (long) hiking vacation. Tents, fire, etc.        d) How do (extremely) poor people live, how do people in extremely        poor Nations live, etc.        If you can do all of these, and have practiced, chances seem good        that are you have as good a chance to survive as you could manufacture.               - Political survival: Then we got the whole issue of rebuilding        society, and getting rid of the criminals. One important thing to        get right is to understand that every person has an inalienable right        to his / her share of the natural resources (land). The land cannot        be sold, it should be forbidden to sell land. Then it is necessary        to have some sort of representative common decision making process,        reasonable laws, and a process to deal with law breakers, etc.        For some better people this can be fairly simple, for not so good        people it might need to be more elaborate and detailed (?).               For the not so advanced people, such as the European Nations (which        includes Latin America and the USA subcultures), I put together a        rather detailed system (free on website). It also comes with a system        of how to implement it, which is also detailed and multi facetted.        I doubt that the European peoples are capable of this system in its        entirity, but some parts may succeed, and maybe more after time has        passed.               Some better behaved peoples, whoever they are (not sure!), the        system(s) proposed might still be interesting to think about. They        also come in simplified versions. There is a version with only 7        laws, a version with 50 laws, one with 239 laws, and then one that        adds some 25 ammendments to expand on it.               There are 4 principles proposed here:        1. A seriously democratic system: groups of 50 people elect a        delegate, whom they can replace any moment. These delegates form        councils with 50 persons minimum. If the council get very large,        they can divide out into a minimum of 10 sectors, or (better)        again 50 sectors. Each sector of elected delegates appoints        someone to stand for them, whom they can again immediately        replace.               The ordinary people voting circle of 50, as well as the        councils, can divide in groups of 10 to debate things (this is        of course open to whatever you want, but it seems to be an        effective strategy, which is inspired by the Haudenosaunee        Confederacy). It is important to make people speak who should        speak, and many do that easier in a group of 10 rather than 50. It        also helps to divide into smaller groups, to keep shouting and        domineering people under control. It fractures their power. The        small groups also stimulate a slower Governing process, as smaller        groups bend themselves over what another small group is proposing        to them.               2. The businesses or production groups which are created, should        become co-operatives (mini democracies) once the starter leaves,        if they have not been founded as a co-op from the start. Only        small businesses with less than 10 persons are exempt.               3. The financial system should not get out of control, and neither        should the wealthy. There should be a maximum on wealth (I propose        a quite high 30 times average). Loans should not be made on        profit, except for co-operative businesses, and generally be        limited. Once again I propose to make a professional lender        business community ... illegal. Once again we have seen how they        have the power to ruin everything (their games have been made        illegal before in history, it always ends up with a reaction to        their shenanigans being that their games are made illegal, and now        we are at that point again.)               4. Last but not least: everyone should be given their share of the        natural resources. The needs of nature should be subtracted from        the total first. There is no human society or economy, without a              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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