From: wernerhetzner@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:16:55 AM UTC-4, Jos Boersema wrote:   
   > On 2020-04-03, New York Libertarians  wrote:   
   > > This is a valid suspicion.    
   >    
   > When the people get hurt enough, their decadence induced stupor will wear   
   > off. I want to mobilize that rage, and not even direct it immediately at   
   > these gangsters at the top. That would be too easy. That would lead to   
   > nothing. That's what they are expecting anyway. That's a shallow system.   
   >    
   > No: we shall have to re-order the economy, and society broadly, so that   
   > we make it uninhabitable for their kind of power. Once we start re-ordering   
   > the land ownership, we aren't just cutting off a few “heads of the   
   dragon”   
   > for which there are an endless supply in waiting. We aren't even cutting   
   > off the root of the evil plant, or gutting it.    
   >    
   > We would go another step more fundamental: we would be changing the   
   > makeup of the system in such a way, that it would be a lot harder —   
   > hopefully near impossible — to centralize power. They would no longer   
   > have before them an easy to exploit system, with ignorant people almost   
   > begging to be their slaves.    
   >    
   > We would distribute the land, which is the most important of all measures,   
   > by far. This cut off the growth of centers of power. Sure, there are ways   
   > around that, which all need to be systematically cut and replaced.    
   >    
   > What people always tend to want is just go for the head, cut off some   
   > necks and vent their rage. After that: the game comes back, new heads roll   
   > into place, even immediately. It doesn't change much. That is the wrong   
   > approach.    
   >    
   > The right approach is to make ordinary people, all of them, have their   
   > power in the economy and State, and by doing so this will take away that   
   > same power from those who centralize it. Powers like: land ownership,   
   > company ownership / rule, freedom from debt, meaningful vote and   
   > participation in the State, and others.   
   >    
   > Once we have so restructured society, and empowered good people … Once we   
   > have that meritocracy of the market in the correct way operating, we don't    
   > just give people power, if they care to be dilligent (or: those who do),   
   > they would start shining with self confidence. The whole thing could change,   
   > provided if people want to be civilized (or: only for those who want to be   
   > civilized, dilligent and good; because they can be creative and productive,   
   > use these powers in the correct way). The system empowers good people. It   
   > eviscerates the power of the evil gangs that rule today, their lies and   
   > above all their profit systems.   
   >    
   > Once that has gone on for as long as it needs to tip the balance of power   
   > sufficiently, we can come in against the enemy and take all their heads   
   > at once, all their footsoldiers. We take them all down, after having   
   > weakened them, and strengthened the side of good people. This takes time.   
   > It doesn't matter even if the enemy knows we are doing it, it's not a secret   
   > plan. Let them watch, their fear will eviscerate them further. They grew   
   > strong on controlling land and people, but people had a chance during that   
   > time to learn discipline. Those who have learned enough of that, could be   
   > ready to throw off the parasite once and for all, to be free and try to   
   > become happy and good people.   
   >    
   > If heaven wants it, it is as good as done. People want to go to the head   
   > of the enemy too soon. We need more preparation, to find our footing and   
   > power, slowly eviscerating theirs as we grow. In the end, it will potentially   
   > be anti-climactic when we take the enemy down. They might look like a bunch   
   > of scared, pathetic low lives who done so much harm to others, and now it   
   > is all falling back on their own heads. People might pity that scum, and   
   > that's that. Total and permament defeat for the enemy, a bright and open   
   > future for all people of good will, willing to do a minimum of effort.    
   >    
   > This would close a long period of discipline by force. Those who can    
   > discipline themselves, who have the will to be good for goodness sakes,   
   > who hate crime, there must be hope for such people. Their future cannot   
   > be to become a slave to the Central Bankers, with a chip in their head to   
   > be activated with poison whenever some algorithm say they no longer serve   
   > the needs of these criminals. That's what they want, you better believe it.   
   > That is their ultimate dream.    
   >    
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